Smith and Wesson M&P VS Glock

M&P

  • Smith and Wesson M&P

    Votes: 271 51.5%
  • Glock

    Votes: 255 48.5%

  • Total voters
    526
Again.... Running a cold range is a direct contradiction to the first fundamental rule, ALL FIREARMS ARE ALWAYS LOADED. Preaching and practicing two different mantras is bad for business.

Agencies purchase S&W because they cater heavily to large contracts with killer pricing and service plans. The bean counters determine what gear is used, not the street level officer or training dept.

TDC

Without question next to your statement you have all your guns set up to kill people which even you finally admitted wasn't the smatest thing to say the above two statements rank two and three as the least thought out posts you have ever made.

As to your deep concern about using the word "Accident" or "Accidental", a concern mentioned by more than just you, you might want to get hold of a dictionary sometime and look up the different meanings of the word. English is funny that way as words can have different meanings. The definitions are listed below:

n.

A. An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm: car accidents on icy roads.

B. An unforeseen incident: A series of happy accidents led to his promotion.

C. An instance of involuntary urination or defecation in one's clothing.

D. Lack of intention; chance: ran into an old friend by accident.

E. Logic. A circumstance or attribute that is not essential to the nature of something.

[Middle English, chance event, from Old French, from Latin accidēns, accident-, present participle of accidere, to happen : ad-, ad- + cadere, to fall.]


I think you will find one of the definitions meets the criteria and the word can be used to describe an unintended discharge of a firearm.

As to the Glock vs M&P, both are relatively inexpensive to manufacture and thus can be sold for little in bulk and still provide a margin of profit to the manufacturer. In the case of these two pistols both are sold to Law Enforcement at great discount to MSRP to the benefit of the taxpayers and the "bean" counters. Both fullfill the need to arm police officers with a firerarm which will go bang on the rare occassion when the need arises. With the average gunfight distance being somewhere in the neighbourhood of 3' with 3 or less shots fired the guns are adequate for the Law Enforcement crowd. For other applications one might want to look further afield.

Take Care

Bob
 
Without question next to your statement you have all your guns set up to kill people which even you finally admitted wasn't the smatest thing to say the above two statements rank two and three as the least thought out posts you have ever made.

As to your deep concern about using the word "Accident" or "Accidental", a concern mentioned by more than just you, you might want to get hold of a dictionary sometime and look up the different meanings of the word. English is funny that way as words can have different meanings. The definitions are listed below:

n.

A. An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm: car accidents on icy roads.

B. An unforeseen incident: A series of happy accidents led to his promotion.

C. An instance of involuntary urination or defecation in one's clothing.

D. Lack of intention; chance: ran into an old friend by accident.

E. Logic. A circumstance or attribute that is not essential to the nature of something.

[Middle English, chance event, from Old French, from Latin accidēns, accident-, present participle of accidere, to happen : ad-, ad- + cadere, to fall.]


I think you will find one of the definitions meets the criteria and the word can be used to describe an unintended discharge of a firearm.

As to the Glock vs M&P, both are relatively inexpensive to manufacture and thus can be sold for little in bulk and still provide a margin of profit to the manufacturer. In the case of these two pistols both are sold to Law Enforcement at great discount to MSRP to the benefit of the taxpayers and the "bean" counters. Both fullfill the need to arm police officers with a firerarm which will go bang on the rare occassion when the need arises. With the average gunfight distance being somewhere in the neighbourhood of 3' with 3 or less shots fired the guns are adequate for the Law Enforcement crowd. For other applications one might want to look further afield.

Take Care

Bob

English is a funny language. I never said my guns are setup TO kill people, they are setup for their original intended purpose, which is FOR killing. What they "kill" is irrelevant. You are correct, I chose those words to get a rise out of folks and it certainly did. Sadly, many took it out of context as they failed to read the rest of that particular post. By being setup FOR their original intended purpose I meant they are reliable and easy to use. Both important attributes in a tool intended for a military role, ala "killing". The same attributes happen to an asset for the competitive world as well.

As for the words "accident" and "accidental" both words are most often associated with situations and/or events where there is no negligent behavior. Car accidents are not accidents, they're predictable and preventable for the most part. The same applies to "accidental discharges". Short of a mechanical failure, the operator is 100% responsible and 100% at fault. That would be negligent discharges, not accidental discharge.

TDC
 
Car accidents are not accidents, they're predictable and preventable for the most part. The same applies to "accidental discharges". Short of a mechanical failure, the operator is 100% responsible and 100% at fault. That would be negligent discharges, not accidental discharge.

TDC

You obviously have not encountered black ice at night. The result of which is neither predictable nor preventable.

You still ignore what the word means. My bet is you don't know what the word negligence means either.

Take Care

Bob
 
There was a Ayoob column some months ago if I remember correctly. Three feet, three shots and three seconds was the topic. Apparently most gun fights fall to those three circumstances. Not sure if he takes drive by drug shootings into account but maybe. I guess there just aren't many cases where guys blaze away at each other for very long. Not sure how or where such stats are corolated. He may have not watched the show "Last Man Standing".:D

Take Care

Bob
 
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