Smith Wesson Model 41

bigi said:
Well I still have mine 1965 EFS. By the way, there are 2 set screws that hold the sliding sight on the top of the barrel. I don't think its quite that rare, commands a $150 premium on a M41. See here:http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-...-early-70s-model-41-extended-front-sight.html
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You're quite correct concerning the set screws however on the issue of availability, the only one I've ever seen was the one I foolishly sold. I've had two M41s and prior to that, actually started out with a M46. I have seen quite a few M41s but again, only one with the extendable front sight.
 
From the experts on EFS numbers:
SWAG would be 3-5 thousand shipped as unit and about 2000 as bbl only.

SWAG = Scientific wild-assed guess??????????
 
The S & W 41 and 46 were not my favourite 22 hand guns.
I did quite a few years of vey active one handed bulls eye shooting with small bore. With that type of shooting it is critical that the gun points naturally where you want it to hit. Our group always swicthed around at times, trying out each others guns.
Especially, in trying a new gun, one should stand in his/her shooting positon, close the eyes and point the gun like you are going to shoot, then open your eyes and the gun should be pointed at the target.
The 41 or 46, always pointed low. One had to make a concious movement to twist the wrist up a bit, to bring them on target. This is not condusive to good shooting.
My Browning Medalist was pointed dead at the target, when I opened my eyes, as was most of the other makes.
But just look at the two Smiths. The handles are closer to right angles, than are other common brands.
 
Thought that pictured Medalist was the one I regret selling but the forend was unmodified and had the screwdriver (and keys).

The 41 remains in production and is new around $1,250 (before any negotiations) for either barrel length. They are good shooters, come out of their custom shop, but for the price can find better.

My guess is between $750 (get it sold) and $850 (be another $100 happier), may get more it no others are for sale and its the pistol a person must have...
 
So far I'm pleased with it:) but although I haven't had my recently acquired Browning Medalist for very long, I agree with what you're saying Bruce. The angle and alignment between the grip angle and the line of aim/sight has a very natural feel to it. One of my first decent 22s was the Browning Challanger with the same or very similar grip angle, chosen for just for that natural feel.

Later when I started into the centre fire aspect of Bullseye shooting and paper punching, my first centre fire was an accurized Colt 1911. The grip angle of the 1911 seemed a lot closer 'fit' to the angle and alignment of the S&W so I traded off my Challanger for a S&W model 46. Later I upgraded that to my first S&W model 41. The 41 and 1911 later went to help pay for a Walther GSP with the combined 22 & 32 'trimmings'.

When I recently acquired the Medalist I pictured in a previous post, I also couldn't resist a mint Colt Match Target, which again, has a very similar grip to line of sight angle as the Medalist.

I'm still considering options I have on a 41 and if the price is 'right', I may pick that up as well.
 
I also have both the M41 and Medalist. I agree both are fantastic .22lr and I enjoy shooting both. The pet peev is the Medalist magazine insert angle and release. The Smith is more natural and easier. The grip on the Medalist is superior but large hands will not fit easy.
 
Johnn Peterson said:
So far I'm pleased with it:) but although I haven't had my recently acquired Browning Medalist for very long, I agree with what you're saying Bruce. The angle and alignment between the grip angle and the line of aim/sight has a very natural feel to it. One of my first decent 22s was the Browning Challanger with the same or very similar grip angle, chosen for just for that natural feel.

Later when I started into the centre fire aspect of Bullseye shooting and paper punching, my first centre fire was an accurized Colt 1911. The grip angle of the 1911 seemed a lot closer 'fit' to the angle and alignment of the S&W so I traded off my Challanger for a S&W model 46. Later I upgraded that to my first S&W model 41. The 41 and 1911 later went to help pay for a Walther GSP with the combined 22 & 32 'trimmings'.

When I recently acquired the Medalist I pictured in a previous post, I also couldn't resist a mint Colt Match Target, which again, has a very similar grip to line of sight angle as the Medalist.

I'm still considering options I have on a 41 and if the price is 'right', I may pick that up as well.
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Johnn, when all the paper work is complete, I will be driving a hundred plus miles to bring home a beautiful 3rd generation Colt Woodsman Match Target, with 6 in barrel.
Also accompanying the Colt will be a High Standard. I was there to purchase the 1895 Winchester in 405 WCF, that I think I posted a while back, and was too engrossed in the Winchester to concentrate on anything else, so I don't even know the model of the High Standard!
Oh, and by the way, a while back I posted on the antique and black powder, about an original flint lock pistol, which I kew very l ittle about, because, as I said, I was too interested in the Winchester to learn much about these others.
Well, that flint lock is coming along with the two 22 semi autos, when I bring them home, so later I will post some pictures.
And John, not wishing you bad luck, but I hope your other hunting options don't materialize, so you could bring your artillary here and we could have a great shoot out!
 
H4831 said:
Johnn, when all the paper work is complete, I will be driving a hundred plus miles to bring home a beautiful 3rd generation Colt Woodsman Match Target, with 6 in barrel.
Also accompanying the Colt will be a High Standard. I was there to purchase the 1895 Winchester in 405 WCF, that I think I posted a while back, and was too engrossed in the Winchester to concentrate on anything else, so I don't even know the model of the High Standard!
Oh, and by the way, a while back I posted on the antique and black powder, about an original flint lock pistol, which I kew very l ittle about, because, as I said, I was too interested in the Winchester to learn much about these others.
Well, that flint lock is coming along with the two 22 semi autos, when I bring them home, so later I will post some pictures.
And John, not wishing you bad luck, but I hope your other hunting options don't materialize, so you could bring your artillary here and we could have a great shoot out!
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Congrats on the 3rd generation Colt Woodsman Match Target. I've recently picked up the same, except mine has a 4 1/2" barrel.

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If I decide to 'go for' the model 41 S&W, there's also a Hi Standard Supermatic Citation that I may 'need' as well. Depends on the deal I can make but I'm hoping.

The general plan is to visit young son in Horsefly for about three days, then on to Penticton. Then, in addition to the bike ride with my brother in law, on either the 20th or 21st, we head to Salmon Arm for a day at the show and finally meet you. I'd really like to get up for some quad activity and shooting with you guys but that may have to wait for another visit. When that comes to be, you'll have to let me know what 'artillary' you'd like me to bring. The Mule Deer hunt on draw in AB will take place in the 1st or 2nd week of November so the agenda's a little tight at the moment.

Here's another very recent acquisition, that I 'needed', from the same source as the Colt and Browning. A Kimber Super Match II in .45ACP with a lot of accessories.

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Johnn, your modern pistols are in better condition than the modern pistols from my source.
But I sure like my Winchester .405 and the Mauser Broomhandle!
 
H4831 said:
Johnn, your modern pistols are in better condition than the modern pistols from my source.
But I sure like my Winchester .405 and the Mauser Broomhandle!
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That was the main reason I've had trouble even 'trying' to turn down any I've been offered. They're all mint condition!! The only slight imperfection on any I'm interested in is the alteration to the wood forend on the medalist, which I believe the owner did to allow the weights to be attached without removing the forend.

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For the time being, I can live with that but if you ever come across an unaltered forend, give me a shout. Also, I wouldn't mind finding a spare mag for the Medalist and one for the Colt so if you see something decent available, let me know.

Looking forward to seeing your model 95. A relative in the interior had one and as I recall from shooting it, my shoulder got a memorable 'introduction' to the curved butt plate. Further to your probable use on Mr. Moose, it'll work well. Did for my relative, twice.

I assume your Broomhandle is 9mm? Definately a classic. Along somewhat 'similar' lines, a local guy showed me a little treasure he recently acquired. A Bergmann-Bayard in 9mm Baird. Looks like a cross between your Broomhandle and the Walther GSP I had years ago.
 
lineofsight said:
Wish my flowerpots grew Kimbers.

How do you like the checkering on the trigger guard?
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The flower pot was utilized as a quick backdrop for a photo. The checkering or stippling on the bottem of the trigger guard is the same as that on the front of the grip frame and in all honesty, I haven't formed an opinion on it yet. Almost all of my handgun shooting of late has been more of a plinking and two handed variety as I'm presently nursing a injured right rotator. As such, I haven't done much shooting along the lines of an off hand typical bullseye shooting stance.

A side issue, this Super Match II with its Custom Shop workings has the sweetest trigger pull I've ever had on any of my variety of 1911's.
 
Johnn Peterson said:
The flower pot was utilized as a quick backdrop for a photo
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Darn, as just about to ask you where you get the seats or bulbs for them.

Johnn Peterson said:
The checkering or stippling on the bottem of the trigger guard is the same as that on the front of the grip frame and in all honesty, I haven't formed an opinion on it yet. Almost all of my handgun shooting of late has been more of a plinking and two handed variety as I'm presently nursing a injured right rotator. As such, I haven't done much shooting along the lines of an off hand typical bullseye shooting stance.

A side issue, this Super Match II with its Custom Shop workings has the sweetest trigger pull I've ever had on any of my variety of 1911's.
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Fair enough, have a 1911 with checkering on the front of the grip and another with it on the rear - notice the rear more than the front. Find the triggers on the DW PM7 & Commander Classic good too.
 
lineofsight said:
Darn, as just about to ask you where you get the seats or bulbs for them.



Fair enough, have a 1911 with checkering on the front of the grip and another with it on the rear - notice the rear more than the front. Find the triggers on the DW PM7 & Commander Classic good too.
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The Kimber has the front and rear grip frame straps checkered and from what little shooting I have done with it, that seems to be a good set-up. Still not sure what good the checkering on the bottem of the trigger guard is but it's there.

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I do have an old actual 1911 that was originally 'tiddled up' by an old gunsmith friend and shooting buddy as his own bullseye center fire. The front of the grip frame is smooth but the curved 1911-1A mainspring housing is checkered. Gotta say I prefer the front and back checkering as on the Kimber.

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Then, although not a 1911 but somewhat similar, I have a S&W 4506 with checkering on the grip frame front strap, on the rubber grip rear surface and on the front of the trigger guard. Good I guess for two handed combat style shooting.
 
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