Snail drum magazine for Luger - Legal status for importation?

So any of the items under (3) Paragraph (1)(b) can be repros? A guy really needs to read those regs over a few times to understand fully, eh? :D

... Or a lawyer. ;)


They do not use the term "original, not a reproduction" for any of the magazines in section 3.

(a) is of the “snail-drum” type (schneckentrommel) that was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that is a handgun known as the Parabellum-Pistol, System Borchardt-Luger, Model 1900, or “Luger”, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Model 1902, Model 1904 (Marine), Model 1904/06 (Marine), Model 1904/08 (Marine), Model 1906, Model 1908 and Model 1908 (Artillery) pistols;

(b) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that is a semi-automatic handgun, where the magazine was manufactured before 1910;


(c) was originally designed or manufactured as an integral part of the firearm known as the Mauser Selbstladepistole C/96 (“broomhandle”), or any variant or modified version of it, including the Model 1895, Model 1896, Model 1902, Model 1905, Model 1912, Model 1915, Model 1930, Model 1931, M711 and M712; or


(d) was originally designed or manufactured for use in the semi-automatic firearm that is a handgun known as the Webley and Scott Self-Loading Pistol, Model 1912 or Model 1915.
 
Agentcq

Looks like weaver is sold out of loaders. Do you have another site where you saw it? Basically the only item I am missing. I even have the dustcover for the trommel mag.
 
Agentcq

Looks like weaver is sold out of loaders. Do you have another site where you saw it? Basically the only item I am missing. I even have the dustcover for the trommel mag.

Contact Weaver via his site. I don't know if the repo mag loaders were purchased or ordered by his person, but I know he has some Chinese manufactures reproducing kit for him. He looked into top quality G43 mags, but they were too pricey.

He is a busy Gent, but great to deal with!
 
The subject of snail drum magazines (TM08s) has been discussed at great length on Jan Still’s Luger Forum.

Long discussions regarding fakes and originals for both the drums and the loaders with references to values and how to detect the fakes.

This is a subject that requires doing your homework before you leap… as these pieces can command healthy prices.

The last time I looked Scott Benedict at Pre98 had some type two Bing drums for sale.
He is located in Virginia.

http://shop.pre98.com/product.sc?productId=1108&categoryId=35

http://shop.pre98.com/product.sc?productId=1109&categoryId=35

I do not believe these drums have to be pinned as they are exempted in Canada.

As has been suggested having proper documentation for importing one would be a good idea.

I did my research before purchasing the one shown below.

The snail drum is a type one -A.E.G manufactured…and the loader is Bing manufactured.
Both show correct Imperial markings.

David

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A matching magazine with unit markings on this 1917 dated Artillery Luger.

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I've got an unpinned snail drum, as well as an ostensibly original mag loading tool that came out of Malta (yes, they're that hard to find). The tool was the same price as a repro so even if it is one I'm really not going to lose any sleep over it.
 
There is no doubt that the AEG type one snail drum is more rare and harder to find than the type two Bing drum.
The photo below shows the AEG logo on my snail drum.

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The AEG marked loader and drum dust cover shown below are very rare.
These belong to a collector in Europe...I think.
I saved the photos as I had never seen one before.

David

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Imperial markings on the AEG loader.

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An AEG marked dust cover for the drum magazine.

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So...for anyone that has one of these AEG manufactured loaders..... just realize what a rare difficult to find piece that you have.
 
Just a question...Why on a WW1 AEG Snail drum would they write "GERMANY" in English? It also seems funky that that "Germany" stamping has excessive wear compared to the rest of the drum????
 
From what I understand those were the requirements for imports into the U.S. back them. (50s and 60s)

A "Germany" marked stamping was required by the US and put on by the Germans for export into the U.S.

You see them on some German pistols as well.

David

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