So after seeing Cyanide's setup...

mikebaker1129 said:
What about one of the M14 type folders from REESE surplus ?
www.reesesurplus.com
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If you didn't glean it from post #3, it's ok. I'll let it slide.

I'll be a little more forthright: I hate folders. I hate them with a seething passion. Every gun I've fired that had a folder caused me all kinds of grief. Too long, too short, too hard on the shoulder, WAY too hard on the face.
 
I wonder if you could yank the actual folder off and put an ar15 carbine tube adapter on there, stormwerks makes a few that would work.
 
Grizz Axxemann said:
If you didn't glean it from post #3, it's ok. I'll let it slide.

I'll be a little more forthright: I hate folders. I hate them with a seething passion. Every gun I've fired that had a folder caused me all kinds of grief. Too long, too short, too hard on the shoulder, WAY too hard on the face.
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I see your problem, a folder's meant to be shot from the hip!:D
 
I did one with the ATI mossberg/Rem 870 bolt on collapsible stock set up and a banged up GI Stock.It looks good but its to heavy on the muzzle end.No good at posting pics so if any one one to go thru the pic posting process,I'll email them the pics. I basically followed what 45 ACP King said to use for epoxy and sent out a couple of emails to Turf. Then the big decision was what length do you cut the old stock to graft on the new.I blew it the first time and had to use the spacer for the Remington to move the pistol grip away from the trigger guard by approx 1/4 more. Not my favorite stock but it works and it only cost about 190.00 with the Krylon and other parts.
 
millwright said:
I did one with the ATI mossberg/Rem 870 bolt on collapsible stock set up and a banged up GI Stock.It looks good but its to heavy on the muzzle end.No good at posting pics so if any one one to go thru the pic posting process,I'll email them the pics. I basically followed what 45 ACP King said to use for epoxy and sent out a couple of emails to Turf. Then the big decision was what length do you cut the old stock to graft on the new.I blew it the first time and had to use the spacer for the Remington to move the pistol grip away from the trigger guard by approx 1/4 more. Not my favorite stock but it works and it only cost about 190.00 with the Krylon and other parts.
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send me the pictures, I'm a picture hosting maniac.


EDIT: HERE ARE THE PICTURES.
note from the author: initial camo paint not by him, he despised it









Note: pistol grip was too close to the trigger, spacer installed, problem fixed, something to consider


Epoxied in place with Goop Marine Fix Fast as per 45 ACP Kings suggestion





 
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Thanks Charles for making my work load easier.Any questions guys ask away. To actually fasten the stock I used the bolt that came with the pistol grip stock after inletting the fibreglass stock for the ATI grip.I then used a couple of wood screw to keep the grip from attempting to try and turn.
 
Thanks Guys.The stock looks rough in the close up pictures because thats the way I left it.The original stock was picked as the guinea pig because of its rough exterior and "fantastic" color combination.So if things didn't work out not too much of a lose.All said and done I'm still a fan of the "normal"USGI fibreglass stock.
 
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My cousin was tossing out an old AR airsoft gun he had that had bitten the dust, I did a double take when I noticed the adjustable stock and hand grip, so I snagged it and saw it was actually pretty decent quality. I had an extra chu wood stock so I chopped it to size, now I need a way to attach them both nice and snug. It won't look very gucci but not too bad for 0$.
 
i was thinking of doing the same thing but with an A2 fixed stock .. i have this notion in my head that a collapsable stock isnt big or strong enough .. i know its stupid but i cant shake it :p

i think the A2 stock will suit it better, IMO
 
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charles.emond said:
I see your problem, a folder's meant to be shot from the hip!:D
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Then it's no longer accurate. My wife plans to hunt with hers, and I'd like to get back into service rifle again. :p

Of note, that's the same setup I have in mind, but without the spacer. My fingers are short and stubby, and my wife's hands are really tiny too (yes, I'm already planning to do this at least twice!) I know that's going to cause grief with tear-down but I'm not too worried about scuffing up the portion of the pistol grip that's going to be hidden by said trigger guard. I'd really like an adapter that i can put a grip of my choice on, but if the ATI set is cheaper, I'll roll like that, and just find a slip-on for it. Epoxy is a no-go because once I have the coint for one of the Rauch chassis, i'll be moving the ATI unit to my shotgun :D
 
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So I've been doing some more number crunching over the last couple of days, a little price comparing at such, i might get a Knoxx NRS from TSE (probably just send the money to my sister in Calgary and have her pick it up to save on shipping) but the same problems keep coming back. It all has to do with grip geometry. in order to get the stock as straight as possible, the grip will invariably be at a wonky angle. I'm trying to keep the grip angle as close to what an AR15 would be.

So I got to thinking (again) that I could make up a plate that I could bolt either the adapter from Vz58.net or a modified Rauch Tactical adapter (I'd have to grind the bevel out) and then weld a mounting point for a pistol grip. I've got some 1" wide flat stock kicking around my storage room that I could heat and bend into shape, and then grind the contours as needed, and then anchor that to the stock with some bolts and epoxy (a setup like this I wouldn't be too hurt about trashing and redoing since I have two three foot sections of flat stock.)

I don't have a CAD program available to me, so my designs would be of the pencil, paper and ruler variety, unless I can do it in MS paint, so I'll post it up once I get some time to draw it up.

Now, before I get too carried away... does anyone see any major flaws in my plan?
 
Now that I can access some cool stuff from Promag, I have been looking the Rem 870 tactical stock. It should be a pretty easy retrofit into the m305 stock.

Just reinforce the area the attachment bolt will fit. A bit of shaping and it should work.

Jerry

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which is why I'm gonna chop up some Chu stocks first :)

Oh, got any pics of these units, Mystic? my drawing skills ain't for crap, and i'm beating my head against a wall right now.
 
Grizz, when I do a mod like this, I want the part I am grafting in my hands before I start chopping stocks. That way I can mark directly onto the stock and cut accordingly. Not trying to make a sale (although happy to help if you wish) but I have found that drawing don't help get things done right the first time.

Drawings don't account for the 3D fitment issues of the real item.

Also, epoxy steel is your friend when it comes to final fitting. You can be pretty coarse in your shaping and the bedding will fill everything in and harden that area a surprising amount. I did this on a Lee Enfield and the results were very impressive.

M1A composite stocks will continue to be in short/no supply. I see no real problem using the orig stock. Going to get painted anyways and more then strong enough for our uses.

Let me know...

Jerry
 
The Chu wood stock is a real bad choice for something like this. Some of them are so soft its almost like balsa. The standard seems to be softer then pine. The real question is why you would want to spend a few hours and about $100 in supplies to make a stock that in the end is nothing more then junk after a couple hundred rounds. The wood compresses so badly that I was stuffing folded up business cards between the trigger housing and the wood to get enough tension to stop the receiver from flopping around like an eel on a string.

HOnestly Jerry I think if you produced this for people it would ruin your rep, the factory wood is just junk.

I hear someone is working on a deal to bring in a very large lot of USGI stocks in the next couple months though...

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Grizz, when I do a mod like this, I want the part I am grafting in my hands before I start chopping stocks. That way I can mark directly onto the stock and cut accordingly. Not trying to make a sale (although happy to help if you wish) but I have found that drawing don't help get things done right the first time.

Drawings don't account for the 3D fitment issues of the real item.

Also, epoxy steel is your friend when it comes to final fitting. You can be pretty coarse in your shaping and the bedding will fill everything in and harden that area a surprising amount. I did this on a Lee Enfield and the results were very impressive.

M1A composite stocks will continue to be in short/no supply. I see no real problem using the orig stock. Going to get painted anyways and more then strong enough for our uses.

Let me know...

Jerry
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I am sure the range in timber is quite broad. My experience with the Chu wood was very positive and the stocks I played with were very solid. Those stocks would be just fine for a mod.

Of course, look at what you have before spending dollars.

A bunch of glass stocks would be a good thing. More the merrier...

Hopefully, they will not be the rejected ones that couldn't be consumed stateside. Although I have never seen it myself, second hand info indicates some stocks with really bad lamination problems hitting the market.

At this time, just a rumor....

Jerry
 
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