So I just ordered my first Beretta.....

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So I wanted to pare down my existing shotgun collection to one "do all" gun. I had seperate guns for ducks/geese, turkey, deer, etc....I think I found the one :D :dancingbanana:

I ordered a camo extrema II with the Kick-Off stock. 24" tube. A little short for pass shooting (which I almost never do, I like a 26-28"),
a little longer than I like for a slug/bush gun (I like a 22"), but right smack-dab in the middle. 2 3/4" trap loads all the way up to 3 1/2" heavy loads, a finish that I'm not worried about marking up...yup. Should be perfect. Now the waiting begins :redface:
 
You won't regret it, I have the same but with the 26" barrel and love it. Functions flawlessly, easy to clean and just so nice to shoot.
 
Congrats on your purchase!Should be perfectfor the activities you described.I've had a couple of the 391's over the past couple of years and recently picked up a used 391 Urika in camo with a 30" barrel.Lately it's serving as my turkey gun and I have shot a few rounds of sporting clays & skeet with it and it functions with everything from 2.75" trap loads to the heavy 3" turkey loads.I just picked a used slug barrel for it and am looking forward to wringing that out at the range. Cheers Bac4
 
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harv3589 said:
Functions flawlessly, easy to clean and just so nice to shoot.
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I have a 391. Love it! Functions flawlessly! Nice to shoot! Easy to clean? Only if you mean that you do not have to thoroughly clean it every time!
When you finally have to do a thorough cleaning of the gas system it takes some serious dedicated time. Everything is relative. Next to my benelli super sport, which really is easy to clean, the beretta is maintenance intensive. Love em both.
 
I also have a 391 Urika but with just the 3" chamber. That poor gun had the snot pounded out of it last fall with all the waterfowling that I was doing. There was hardly any time to clean it, got a shot oil a few times a month and that was about it. I could not hurt this gun in any way shape or form! You'll be extremely happy with your purchase. I'm definitely a Beretta owner for life!
 
Well....short list came down to the xtreema or the M4.

Two main factors made up my mind: 1: Gas operated. I've spent my whole life with gaas operated guns, from BAR's to FN's, and am very comfortable with the basic science of what makes it work, and have no problems getting inside the workings. I'm not saying the inertia system is better or worse, but I tend to "go with what I know". That, and I really want to be able to shoot any and every size/type of shell through this thing, right out of the box. I just have (maybe in error) notion that the inertia system has to be at higher risk of wear. If the gun will work on the small pulse generated by a 7/8 oz trap load, it HAS to be taking some abuse when you throw a 3 1/2" mag in there. Unlike a gas system, a recoil system cant regulate......the recoil is what it is.
Like I said, I may very well be in error...but when it comes down to it: If I'm dropping 1.5K + on a working gun, I need to be 100% comfortable with it :)

The second factor was fit. I played with both for about an hour, and the Beretta just pointed more naturally for me...although the Benelli did balance better.
 
Bold Badger said:
I have a 391. Love it! Functions flawlessly! Nice to shoot! Easy to clean? Only if you mean that you do not have to thoroughly clean it every time!
When you finally have to do a thorough cleaning of the gas system it takes some serious dedicated time. Everything is relative. Next to my benelli super sport, which really is easy to clean, the beretta is maintenance intensive. Love em both.
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Is your Beretta the newer Extrema 2? I have a hunting partner who has the older model and his is alot harder to clean than mine...it takes only seconds to strip down and then cleaning only takes a few minutes...no harder than my 870 was to strip down. I cleaned it completely after ever shoot. I can not compare it to the Benelli because I have never had one.
 
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Is your Beretta the newer Extrema 2? I have a hunting partner who has the older model and his is alot harder to clean than mine...it takes only seconds to strip down and then cleaning only takes a few minutes...no harder than my 870 was to strip down. I cleaned it completely after ever shoot. I can not compare it to the Benelli because I have never had one.
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My berettas are the urika and now the urika 2. Both need very little cleaning on a day to day basis. If I used them just for hunting, I would clean them only at the end of the season. I put a flat of cheap target loads through them per week. I have never shot them til they quit, but I am cleaning the gas ports and cylinder after 4000 rounds. That is the big job and it takes way more than a few seconds to do it right. On the other hand I have been playing with a benelli super sport. I take it apart after a shooting session to clean it and usually come to the conclusion it does not need it.
 
Bold Badger said:
My berettas are the urika and now the urika 2. Both need very little cleaning on a day to day basis. If I used them just for hunting, I would clean them only at the end of the season. I put a flat of cheap target loads through them per week. I have never shot them til they quit, but I am cleaning the gas ports and cylinder after 4000 rounds. That is the big job and it takes way more than a few seconds to do it right. On the other hand I have been playing with a benelli super sport. I take it apart after a shooting session to clean it and usually come to the conclusion it does not need it.
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I know it takes more than a few seconds to clean, I said it only takes a few to strip them down, easy to disassemble and reassemble...cleaning probably probably 15 minutes or slightly more.....then I don't put the number of rounds through mine that you are so that may make it easier to clean as well.
 
harv3589, it is the disassembly and cleaning of the valve assembly that I find to be a chore. The rest is a peace of cake. If one does not have special tools the only way to get the crud out is with a dental pick type tool. I know some who say they never clean this part, but many who shoot the 391 suggest every 5000 rounds. As much as I love my berettas I love the simplicity of the benelli inertia system.
 
it is the disassembly and cleaning of the valve assembly that I find to be a chore. The rest is a peace of cake. If one does not have special tools the only way to get the crud out is with a dental pick type tool. I know some who say they never clean this part, but many who shoot the 391 suggest every 5000 rounds. As much as I love my berettas I love the simplicity of the benelli inertia system.
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Five THOUSAND rounds? Holy cow.....I guess the guy that inherits my xtreema can deal with it :) Seriously, had I known that the difference (maintenance wise) was to have a major clean every 5000 rounds, it would have made my choice of the Beretta so much easier.

5000 rounds divided by 250 / season = 20 years....I'm OK with that :D
 
Ya I am pretty safe as well...it would take me years to hit 5000 rounds. I don't shoot that much.

Is the disassembly of the value assembly described in the manual?
 
beretta calls this Special Maintenance and suggest that it be done:

"Every 3000-5000 rounds (according to the type of ammunition used) and in any case at the end of hunting season, before storing the shotgun,...."

I think I broke in my last beretta by shooting close to a flat in the first two days. As far as life goes, I am here for a good time and not a long time so 200+ rounds on an outing is not unusual. Its good to know that it will handle it. It all I wanted was to get me through the next half dozen hunting seasons, any old POS would do. Anyway to the guy who started this thread by deciding on the beretta, Congratulations, and sorry to hijack on a minor little cleaning issue.
 
The first 391 I owned I shot without cleaning for 2500 rounds, then pulled it apart for a thorough cleaning ... for this interval ( about 6 or 7 weeks) I shot mostly 1oz. Gamebore Blue Diamond factory loads and Winchesster AA reloads witrh Claybuster wads and Alliant "Promo" powder. Verdict ... didn't really need it. As for special tools ... already had a set of two-way snap ring pliers with interchangeable pins ... about $ 15 at Princess auto.

From then on, it's been a "visual" to see if a good cleaning is required. Something in about 5000 rounds seems about right with the "cleaner" burning powders. Recoil Spring replacement at about 15000 rounds has been recommended by a number of competitive shooters.

Many shoot their 391's "wet" with something like CLP, ( and are a reall mess inside when cleaning is finally required) I shoot mine virtually dry ( just a little residual film from cleaning) with no problems or issues whatsoever.
 
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