Much like the deer, moose, bear and other assorted critters that I know live in the area coyotes are around as well. Quite often I can hear them howling stirring up the neighbor's dogs. Never seen one or seen any evidence of one in the yard in the years I've been here, that is, until the other day. Either there were two of them, or one was doing laps around the house. They were close enough to literally lift a leg on the corner of the house. So, should I be worried about the kids and my dog? The bears haven't been an issue at all ( they tend to stay away from people, unless it's one of those cuddly ones with momma nearby ). I guess what I am after is do I treat them like a bear ? As in, I'll most likely scare it away before I see it? Usually, I do a critter check before the dog goes out and the kids are, well just kids. You can hear them for miles. I'm most concerned about my dog. She's just shy of 16, partially blind and mostly deaf.
So, I may have a coyote problem.
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Ardent
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I'd watch your dog for sure, we grew up on a farm infested with them and played in the bush at dusk as kids aplenty, they'd follow and watch sometimes but a big leap to attacking. It has happened, about as often as shark attacks, but we've had several dogs that fought with them.
I'd start calling and remove them, if you're close to other dwellings, get and learn a bow. It'll be fun, and they aren't very bright so it won't be too much of a challenge to send your message.
I'd start calling and remove them, if you're close to other dwellings, get and learn a bow. It'll be fun, and they aren't very bright so it won't be too much of a challenge to send your message.
Depending on how close your neighbors are and whether you have outside cats (assuming your best friend lives inside). Get a kill snare, skin the first one and tack it up on the fence. YouTube the details on how to use it, it's not rocket science and being that it's a kill snare ...the hippies can pound sand with that 'cruelty' crap.
Macabre...yes. But I'm guessing it'll slow them down a tad
Macabre...yes. But I'm guessing it'll slow them down a tad
GeoShooter
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You could leave some poisoned meat in the woods for them to eat. Just be extra careful your own critters don't get to it
Last month my brother recorded a coyote eating on his elk carcass 30 ft from his back deck..middle of the day with his dog right there barking at it and the coyote charging it...went on for 20 minutes before he shot it...he has little kids and has lost 6 cats and 3 small dogs and figured it was yotes or cougars...pretty cool video except for the talking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0qN2D63mk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0qN2D63mk4
swinginberrys
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Before running any kind of trap I'd check the legality of it, same with poison meat. I tend to agree with Ardent (except for the fact they aren't very bright) in the long run I don't trust coyotes, they are opportunistic and adapt and learn very quickly. If nothing more I'd be trying to dissuad them from coming around the house.
If it is safe have at them do not kill all of them because the mice will over run you but the ones that come up close to you take them out. if you let them see you when you kill another they will get people shy again if you keep hidden you can keep killing them. I would not use poison personally... A bud of mine had such a problem with them he took a month off of work to deal with them in witch he humanly trapped and relocated 7 to a conservation and killed another 20 with still an over population of about 20%... but they stay away from his land for now.
Ardent
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I appreciate that and trust me, they really aren't very clever, hunting wolves a bit will give the perspective I mean to illustrate. I've missed coyotes, done a quick squeak on the call, and they'll stop and look again. Or, shot one, called for five more minutes, and shot another within a couple dozen yards of the first. They are greedy and opportunistic, and will fall for the same old tricks wolves never would quite routinely. I've also stopped them from a flat out run after they spotted me, gun in hand, with a distress call, they aren't too bright and that's why hunting them is accessible for so many of us in North America, anyone can take it up and succeed. weasel1 I'd encourage you to pick up a simple rabbit distress call and a squeaker and you'll have a surprisingly easy and good time sending the message around your place. We started shotgunning them on our farm because rifles just weren't needed and it was good sport to call them right in, so bows will definitely work.
Then why aren't you using a bow?
They are clever enough to make myself and a few guys I know who target them in the winter with a bow have fits. We have been successful from tree stands when targeting other game such as deer or bears, but from our experience with out a bit of leaf cover coyotes tend to sprint off 80 yards then stop and check their back trail every time we try to draw a bow. I've suggested using a ground blind to them but they're concerned it will get stolen, with snow(not this year so far) making it easy for lazy parasites to find our stuff. I have given up and gone back to the shotgun and rifle(soon to add muzzle loader), still plenty hard enough here.
There is a lot of movement to get a vertical bow ready to shoot and coyotes will more often spot it and get out of the danger zone before you are ready. A crossbow would eliminate most of it.
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Ardent
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No need to, nobody cares how much noise we make. We're talking about the OP, and his over-confident coyote that is pissing on his house, something tells me a bow will manage. If he's in an area rifles and shotguns are swell, all the better. You certainly know more about bows on coyotes than I do, but just the same I've shot and hunted enough of them to know them well as the least intelligent predator I've hunted. They're just smart enough to make it fun, and dumb enough you can bag a couple in a day. He'll manage with whatever he picks up in his situation, I imagine.
Chuckbuster
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From what I understand, that would be illegal. As for the OP, yes your presence would send them scurrying. But, as others have said, you need to watch your dog. Also, as others have said, if they are a constant presence, and it is legal where you are, removing some may be necessary.
As I understand it, there is a smartness difference between western and eastern yotes. Eastern are generally smarter and not as easy to fool.
Thanks for the tips folks. No more tracks that I could see (besides deer I suspect, but I'll go for a walk to confirm). I have a neighbor that traps. If, for some reason he can't help, I'll let you know crash. I'm near the Alice ski hill. Someone mentioned houses, well depending on the direction it might be a concern, but for the most part it's not. Don't have a bite yet, but I do have a selection of .22's, an SKS and a 12g.
Will keep you posted if this develops!
Will keep you posted if this develops!
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Ok good luck! Hey i heard the hill wasn't going to be open this year?? I worked with a guy who was going to try and buy the hill. He couldn't do it. (His ex is too expensive)....
##### that - never mind that it's illegal in most places that I've heard of, that's a horrible way to die for any animal. Take the couple minutes out of the day to shoot them and put them out of their misery properly.
Also keep in mind all the other animals that get into meat - any remaining birds of a bunch of species will get into meat from overwintering song birds to ravens and everything in between. Weasels, stoats, birds of prey (kites, hawks, falcons, eagles) etc. Many animals are opportunists, and depending on the poison it can be carried along the food chain quite a way - even non-target species can end up poisoning important species.
Anyways, not attacking you as an individual, but seen a lot of animals die a horrible death from poison, both intended and unintended. Never want to see it again but I know I'm going to and try my best to convince people to stop using poison.
I tend to agree. Indiscriminate placement of poison is about as sporting as shooting blindly into a herd of animals and hoping you hit one. You left out other domestic pets that could get into it..nothing like killing off some little girls's pet cat that was out for a wander.to maybe get one stubborn coyote that really hasn't caused you any grief yet.
I am surrounded by coyotes..all they do is entertain me with their yelping and howling. Keep the cats in when they are active however. I'm not of the opinion the presence of coyotes automatically equals a coyote problem...but will admit to knowing little about the harm they can cause.
I am surrounded by coyotes..all they do is entertain me with their yelping and howling. Keep the cats in when they are active however. I'm not of the opinion the presence of coyotes automatically equals a coyote problem...but will admit to knowing little about the harm they can cause.
