#1bcshooter
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so is Type- 81 coming in or not ?
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Should be approved about the same time as the RPD & the M37
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I actually give the RPD a better chance of getting approved first. There is already a semi auto frt entry for the type 81, and it shows as an AK variant. Not that it means anyone actually examined one, just chalked it up as bring one. It appears the Tactical Imports entry is meant to challenge that frt classification. Good luck to TI for it.
#1bcshooter
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Yes that makes logical sense , But the RCMP dose not use logic .
When is the last time a belt fed was approved as non restricted ?
As for the T81 we all know the RCMP classify on looks in spite of function .
I hope you get your RPD .
I bailed out on that paid in full preorder with no time frame long ago.
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Yes that makes logical sense , But the RCMP dose not use logic .
When is the last time a belt fed was approved as non restricted ?
As for the T81 we all know the RCMP classify on looks in spite of function .
I hope you get your RPD .
I bailed out on that paid in full preorder with no time frame long ago.
Do you not know of the 1919, mg34 etc? There are several non restricted belt felts. Not a lot, but approved.
If they classified on looks, the whole vz58 line would be banned. While it is a popular notion, the RCMP don't ban on looks. Politicians did when they made the 12(x) classes. Unfortunately the variants clause continues to have guns which were banned by looks to have mechanical variants of those guns banned.
I can afford to wait. RPD is paid for already. If it doesn't get approved I'll get a refund and buy something else.
#1bcshooter
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TNW MG34 & 1919A4 were approved in a different time and not by the method currently used .
Just look at the M37 . As for the VZ58 family just look at the CZ858 . Do you think they would have stopped at that one model if we didn't cause a stink & get the Gov to act ?
If more significant change to the firearms act dose not happen I doubt you will see any change in the way the RCMP classify & reclassify firearms . I currently own 2 non restricted belt feds . If things don't change I fully expect them to be reclassified one day .
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Us causing a stink didn't stop them with the cz858. The way in which the two different versions are manufactured did. The cz858 was made from surplus receivers that were intended to by made into full autos, but never were. The CSA versions are newly made receivers, that were always intended to be semi autos. The cz858 was approved much like the MG34 and 1919A4 were. However the internals of the vz58 receivers that were used to make the cz858s changed in 2007, and no one said anything. The mounties caught it later and made a stink. The debate now is whether a gun that was never competed as a full auto, can be classed as being converted from full auto. If something wasn't full auto, how can it be converted from full auto.
Alberta Tactical is looking to make a version of the 1919 themselves. The 1919 has a five walled receiver. The AT version got deemed prohib as one of the 5 walls came from an original, full auto 1919, and thus was deemed converted auto as it contained a portion of a receiver that at one time was full auto. AT is planning on resubmitting the design with all five walls being newly made, and semi auto only. It is anticipated that this will rectify the issue and will result in a NR classification.
The lab classifies on function, based on full auto, converted auto or easily convertible. They have no legislation that allows them to classify on looks. Any firearm that has been classified by the lab, or reclassified, has been as converted auto, or as a variant of a firearm named as prohibited. If the named prohibited firearm was classified on looks, that issue is caused by a politician or bureaucrat.
The issue as it stands in these two cases are the the variant clause, and the definition of what makes a firearm "converted" from full auto.
I agree, the law needs to change. 100%. It would solve this and much more.
