So tell me about a 280 Remington
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Bullet selection is pretty tangible.
It's a fine cartridge and has always had lots of potential
Flavour of the month lately has been the 280 AI but there are certainly no flies on the 280..
But bullet selection is pretty tangible.
DDr........I have had one almost as long as I've had 243s, it's in an old PF mod 70 ftrwt with the McMillan fiberglass schnable stock. It will put 3 rounds into the same hole at 100 mtrs and I think of it as a 7 mag. It will do anything a 7 mag will do out to 400 mtrs or so. Mine only likes 160 gn+ bullets so I load 160 Parts in it. I have never hunted with it but have lent it to several buddies who have been very successful with it, even marveled how well it killed game. When loaded to it's full potential it is only about 150-200 fps shy of the 7mm RM. In my opinion it is a superior cartridge to both the 30-06 or vastly more so than the 270. It will shoot a 160 gn bullet at the same speed as a 30-06 165 gn or the 270 with 150 gn and arrives on target with more velocity and energy than either of the others.........the difference may not be that much but the numbers bear out what I am saying.........it is superior. It will basically equal the 7 WSM, loaded to the same pressures.
Brass of course is a no-brainer as fired 270 can be made into 280 in a heartbeat..........bump it up to 30 or 32 cal and run it through a 280 full length die and voila........280 Rem......or you can just load your bullets long enough to engage the rifling and pull the trigger......I don't like using 30-06 because you end up nearly .050" short and lose the neck length of the 280 as the shoulder is .050" forward from the '06.
I have only one question..........What kind of a "DICKHEAD"would paint a mod 70 featherweight wood stock.........he should have his ...........Well let's just say I feel strongly about this !!!
Brass of course is a no-brainer as fired 270 can be made into 280 in a heartbeat..........bump it up to 30 or 32 cal and run it through a 280 full length die and voila........280 Rem......or you can just load your bullets long enough to engage the rifling and pull the trigger......I don't like using 30-06 because you end up nearly .050" short and lose the neck length of the 280 as the shoulder is .050" forward from the '06.
I have only one question..........What kind of a "DICKHEAD"would paint a mod 70 featherweight wood stock.........he should have his ...........Well let's just say I feel strongly about this !!!
It is what it is and quite frankly the bullet selection for the 270 isn't even close. You can argue that it's good enough all you want, but your argument says there is no tangible difference. My argument is that it's pretty easy to see that's wrong.
Just added up the .277" bullets vs .284" bullets in an old Cabelas catalgue. 19ct vs 26ct. That runs the 270 bullets almost 75% of the 7mm and that's more than enough selection.
I didn't use the word "tangible", you did ........... I said "There's lot of bullets either way. More than enough to keep shooters happy."
I have 2 280s. One is a rebarreled Savage (LH stainless) the other is a Browning ABolt Medallion. The Browning is a bit more accurate but both get the job done nicely thank you. I reload and If you use 270 vs 280 pressure limits The 280 is definitely superior. Only reason I got the 280s is that my first custom was a 7X57 built on a Ruger action and I sort of became a 7mm bullet nut. Incidentally I also have a Win classic (LH) in 7mm Rem Mag and load it with 175 gr bullets, Which makes it a really nice long range elk/moose type shooter. Have fun with your new rifle.
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I have them all, 270, 280, 280AI, You would never know which one you have in the chamber when shooting game.
While all of us from the Jack O'Connor era will likely agree that Jack was the king of the outdoor writers, it was actually "Outdoor Life Magazine," that he was the shooting editor of for many years.
Any difference in cartridge case was just for safety factors, to make it more difficult to get a 280 into a 270 chamber, or a 30-06 into a 280 chamber.
In reality, it was so close to the well established, because of O'Connor, 270, that the 280 just couldn't make it. The difference between .277 and .284 is just not that great.
Jim... I have owned/loaded for/shot a plethora of 7mm's, including 7mm-08, 7X57, 7X64, .280, .280 AI, .284 Win, 7mm RM, 7mm STW... and one or two more... I really like the .284 caliber... in our area it is a great all-rounder. Of those, my favourites have been the 7X57 and standard .280... Some prefer the heavy for caliber bullets, but any of the rifles I have loaded for have done best with mid-weight bullets in the 150-162 range... the 154 or 162 SST'S are a good choice for deer... I like the 160 Partitions for moose and bear.
If you're having a hard time finding brass or dies, shoot me a PM and I will fix you up.
If you're having a hard time finding brass or dies, shoot me a PM and I will fix you up.
It looks like the areas where the 280 was popular were not large enough to sustain the calibre.
The 280 today is scarce/very scarce, while the 270 just keeps on rolling along, with ammunition in every corner store or big box facility.
The 280 today is scarce/very scarce, while the 270 just keeps on rolling along, with ammunition in every corner store or big box facility.
One of the old guys at hunt camp shoots a 280....... I got a chance to "walk it out" a bit and liked it very much out to 300 yes..... He was able to find some good old fashioned rem core-lokt for it stateside....... And I was able to source 100 brass on the cheap...... We harvested the live rounds and I was able to reload all of them with accubonds and he now has enough rounds to last his lifetime and likely mine as well......
