So this happened today......

Well, your stories of failures do give me some worry. I've handled and seen a lot of p38s and never saw a crack. Never say never though. Especially under stressful labor conditions.
 
Beretta M-92s have been known to crack in the same area of the locking cut out.

From, " The Modern Beretta Firearms ", by Gene Gangarosa Jr.
 
This is unfortunately why many collectors choose not to shoot their guns. Once something like this happens, an all matching original gun will never be the same again.

The good news for collectors is that while the pool of original guns gets smaller from shooters wearing them out or breaking them, the surviving examples stashed away in safes increase in value.

Sean thanks for sharing with us what happened and showing other members what can happen to these old guns.

Regards,
-Steve
 
Replacement post war slide is $79 at Numrich both P1 and P38 in stock. Might be an option for your shooter if you cant find WWII.

I did see those, though honestly, I have not really looked very hard - just there and sarco ... nowhere else.
 
Replacement post war slide is $79 at Numrich both P1 and P38 in stock. Might be an option for your shooter if you cant find WWII.

Don't you need at least a round firing pin for a postwar slide?

I'm going to have mine welded :S Not optimal, but I can most likely get one of the guys at work to do it for a 12 pack, and he welds on jet engine parts for a living so he'll probably do ok. I'm a machinist by trade so hopefully I can blend and refinish it and it'll look ok.

At this point it will probably get a wet glass bead and black oxide finish as that's what it looks like right now. Probably do the whole gun so it doesn't look weird. I'll post a couple pics once I finish so you can judge for yourself whether to get yours welded or not :)
 
Yes - please do post pics ....

Don't you need at least a round firing pin for a postwar slide?

I'm going to have mine welded :S Not optimal, but I can most likely get one of the guys at work to do it for a 12 pack, and he welds on jet engine parts for a living so he'll probably do ok. I'm a machinist by trade so hopefully I can blend and refinish it and it'll look ok.

At this point it will probably get a wet glass bead and black oxide finish as that's what it looks like right now. Probably do the whole gun so it doesn't look weird. I'll post a couple pics once I finish so you can judge for yourself whether to get yours welded or not :)
 
Itl be made of steel so it can be welded... But with how it broke being 100% brittle fracture it looks like it wasn't heat treated right to begin with....

This reminds me of when a locking flap on a G43 of mine broke - I've never fired a G43 or K43 again.

Luckily Apfeltor was able to repair the broken flap for me via welding.

Perfect example is the US army actually cut a bunch of 1911A1 slides after WWII - when Korea kicked up they actually sent the slides to the SA and they carefully re-welded and re-finished each slide. These sneak into the surplus market and are usually found on MM 1911's and for some reason Ithaca and Remington Rand versions more than others.

The trick will be finding someone who can do the quality work.

Oh…Shame on you for shooting Hot rounds in a collectors pistol.
 
Didn't one of the sponsors sell P1 slides a few years back?
P1 slides are reinforced for that exact same reason, to prevent them from cracking. Saw quite a few cracked P38 slides.
 
I saw a Walther P-1 slide around 25 years ago that was broken on the left side only.No idea what loads were used in it.I have a cyq pistol with a hairline crack around 2 inches long on the side of the barrel.Pistol was made July 1944.
 
I don't know what's the composition of some steel used in guns- some of them are royal PITA to get a clean weld and I'm talking about dewat quality weld.Welding it so it can be shot again can be next to impossible due to that and shape of the part.

I'm thinking "high carbon content" but that's just a guess.
 
This is unfortunately why many collectors choose not to shoot their guns. Once something like this happens, an all matching original gun will never be the same again.

The good news for collectors is that while the pool of original guns gets smaller from shooters wearing them out or breaking them, the surviving examples stashed away in safes increase in value.

Sean thanks for sharing with us what happened and showing other members what can happen to these old guns.

Regards,
-Steve

Good point. I see some people slagging others who chose not to shoot their collectible firearms. I have three or four out of maybe 150 that I won't shoot. Some others I haven't got around to shooting them. Some I shoot once in a while. I have a favorite few "non collectibles" that I shoot lots.

I did shoot a Mauser Broomhandle a bit. I have a matching Luger that I shot when it belonged to another fellow. I thought better of it and bought a non matching one in good condition. We shoot that one. :)

Thanks for posting. I feel for you. I had the cocking piece on a Luger break and go flying at our old indoor range. I picked it up and said good and loud, "See why we wear safety glasses!" :p
 
Glad you're OK.
It looks like the Atoms separated along the Intermolecular and Covalent Bonds!
Things can be fixed or replaced, people can't.

All matching 1943 CYQ ....

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70 years old, build by slave labour known to sabotage, knowingly shooting hot reloads.

My own damn fault.

This is just a flat out stupid mistake that could have been avoided with a bit of responsibility.

Fortunately no one was injured.

Be warned, it ***might not*** be "OK"
 
My very first milsurp pistol was a cyq 1944 P38. Bought it back in 1978. Yes I'm old. Cracked in same spot on left side of slide. 1944 dated cyq P38s are well known for doing this, especially the cogged hammer later ones.
 
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