So What Exactly Constitutes a Hoarder.....( A Reloading Component Whore)......???

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Well boys and girls, its high time to draw the line......With all the panic buying and such, I read on this forum (and all the others as well) about how this person or that person blames the shortages of reloading components on hoarders......That's like the pot calling the kettle black......perhaps the accusers are guilty of the same sin, but just don't fess up to it---here in cyberspace.....

So lets take Joe Average 308 shooter who does some competition shooting in the off season, and hunts maybe two or three big game species each year......what's he got under his bench or on the shelves above it....?? Maybe five or ten pounds of powder.....maybe a few bricks of primers.......maybe a total cache of 500 brass......and several hundred bullets of various weights, styles, and brand......Does this make him a hoarder.....? I think not.....To my way of thinking, if the guy has more than he can ever use in a lifetime...(call him 40 years old)...then he is a hoarder in my books.....

If you have 50 pounds of powder....you just might be a hoarder.......

If you could level a city block if all your primers detonated at the same time.....you might be a hoarder.....

If you have more brass than the Russian army......you might be a hoarder.....

If you have enough bullets to fight the Russian army.......you just might be a hoarder.....

All this got started on January 20th, 2009...ahem........and then exacerbated by the Newtown massacre....and I don't see it getting any better anytime soon......

And that's how I see it.....
 
LOL...funny

I'm not sure that any group is to blame but it's more just the cumulative effect. The guy that used to buy a box of ammo at a time now buys three. The guy that used to buy 50 bullets now buys a couple hundred. Now times that by 50 million and you see what happens. I think we are all guilty of it to some degree.
 
If someone practices for IPSC and shoots 500 rounds a week of 45, 14 pounds of powder will make about 25,000 rounds. This works out to 500 rounds for 50 weeks. When we have our monthly shotgun fun day and burn through 250 slugs, at 25 grains of Herco per slug, 12 pounds of powder will suffice for the year. When we decide to take the AR's out and shoot 3-400 rounds in a couple of hours every few weeks... well we buy Norinco ammo for that. I also shoot through a pound of various rifle powders a month as well. That would suggest that for me with just my basic shooting I will easily consume 40 pounds of powder a year.

Would you consider someone who buys in volume but also uses in volume a hoarder? For the person who reloads enough to use 3, 4, 8, 10 pounds a year, maybe they would feel that way. For the person who shoots 50,000 rounds a year, 50 or 60 pounds of powder is nothing.

And that's how I see it.
 
rojogrande said:
Well boys and girls, its high time to draw the line......With all the panic buying and such, I read on this forum (and all the others as well) about how this person or that person blames the shortages of reloading components on hoarders......That's like the pot calling the kettle black......perhaps the accusers are guilty of the same sin, but just don't fess up to it---here in cyberspace.....

So lets take Joe Average 308 shooter who does some competition shooting in the off season, and hunts maybe two or three big game species each year......what's he got under his bench or on the shelves above it....?? Maybe five or ten pounds of powder.....maybe a few bricks of primers.......maybe a total cache of 500 brass......and several hundred bullets of various weights, styles, and brand......Does this make him a hoarder.....? I think not.....To my way of thinking, if the guy has more than he can ever use in a lifetime...(call him 40 years old)...then he is a hoarder in my books.....

If you have 50 pounds of powder....you just might be a hoarder.......

If you could level a city block if all your primers detonated at the same time.....you might be a hoarder.....

If you have more brass than the Russian army......you might be a hoarder.....

If you have enough bullets to fight the Russian army.......you just might be a hoarder.....

All this got started on January 20th, 2009...ahem........and then exacerbated by the Newtown massacre....and I don't see it getting any better anytime soon......

And that's how I see it.....
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Very funny, I'm more than okay then.. thanks for setting the standard :)
 
I think "more than they can use in one lifetime" probably qualifies.

Speaking of which, I am offering a very reasonably priced hoarding avoidance service. Simply send me your excess reloading equipment, along with $5 per pound(gross weight) and I will ensure that it is kept someplace where it will not make you feel like you're a hoarder.

I have one ammo can of .223, I'm working on an ammo can of .308, and when that's full I'll work on a can of 9mm. That's my current reasonable maximum, and for the forseeable future I'll just focus on maintaining that amount.
 
i have maybe 30lbs of powder (15 different powders, mainly pistol), 18000 primers, 16,000 projectiles, maybe 5000 loaded rounds of centerfire and 8000 rimfire. plus a few hundred pounds of lead and 9 molds.

i try and shoot 400-500 centerfire per week, but in the summer not so much.

so i have about a years supply, but i do get immense pleasure in looking at my stash as it grows lol. If i see a good deal i will likely jump on it, hell i saw a crate of 7.62x54r for a good price and bought it, then i got a mosin nagant...
 
Sheep. It's a flocking reaction, group panic - basically the same behaviour responsible for stock market crashes. People think they need to get it before it's all gone. I don't hoard but i bought almost all of my stuff before the rush started. When i find a good deal i buy lots and keep it on hand. Now i'm living on the stash from previous years - I only have about 5 years worth of components left so I hope the nuttiness ends before then.

Cheaper Than Dirt - the US shooting accessories store - is selling 500 round bulk packs of .22 rimfire for $299.00.
Would you call that gouging or not? LOL
 
IrishRangeRover said:
I read 10,000 primers is the limit. Is there legislation on max primers on hand?
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no, it's limited by explosive/powder limits.

i don't remember the number, it think 25kg inside and up to 75kg outside in a shack. again don't quote me on that.

that includes powder, primer(well the powder in the primer), and loaded rounds (powder and primer powder, not the lead/brass)
 
i try not to drop below 40lbs of powder and maybe 10000 primers, 1000's of bullets and brass. i'm not a horder as i use up and replentish my stock. i've been threw the primer shortage and now the powder shortage and i can still shoot what i want when i want without worry.
 
well im a hoarder.... possibly even 2 or 3 haha i think currently i have ohhhh $3000 worth of just projectiles in my reloading room :/ i dont even want to think how much $ in powder, or brass hahaha
 
To one man another may be a hoarder, to another unprepared...
I shoot IPSC and decided to dabble in open division...
Several shooters I know shoot a thousand rounds a month- I've heard of some who exceed that.
My shooting this year has been completely limited by component availability.
For a time small pistil magnum primers and H110 were beyond scarce.
I could sub the primers for rifle but I was up a creek without H110.
Even cutting back I was still budgeting what I had for specific shoots- never mind practice.
I've started finding components recently so some might call me a hoarder but I would prefer to think I'm just somewhat prepared for the next season...
 
Blame the US Government for Hoarding. They bought more munitions and supplies than all the reloaders in the US and Canada combined. Don't go blaming us ants for having foresight and storing for the winter grasshopper. ;) :ninja:
 
jethunter said:
Sheep. It's a flocking reaction, group panic - basically the same behaviour responsible for stock market crashes. People think they need to get it before it's all gone. I don't hoard but i bought almost all of my stuff before the rush started. When i find a good deal i buy lots and keep it on hand. Now i'm living on the stash from previous years - I only have about 5 years worth of components left so I hope the nuttiness ends before then.

Cheaper Than Dirt - the US shooting accessories store - is selling 500 round bulk packs of .22 rimfire for $299.00.
Would you call that gouging or not? LOL
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Oh I'm no different. I'm set for a while but buy up what I find....just in case....lol
 
If I can have enough ammunition and components for me to keep shooting and practicing and experiment with loads for at least 1 year without having to buy anything during that year, I consider myself good. I'm not there yet though, therefore, I don't call myself a hoarder.

I just got into this, so I'm still in the collection process. Building lead stocks, brass stocks, powder stocks. I tend to pick up VV N110 whenever I can find it (Generally whenever in Lloyd, I find 1kg containers for $73 at Prophet River as opposed to 1 lbs containers at Wholesale for $50). That's what I use for loading .500 S&W loads. Whenever I'm out, I have troubles not picking up something. I generally have to stop myself since when I was in Lloyd, I left the city with over $300 in brass, primers, powder and accessories... :D

Still have lots on the to-do as I plan on doing 38-55, 9mm and .308 , so I'll still have lots of primers, powder and brass to collect for those. As I said, 1 year. And I can go through a lot of ammo in one outing.
 
To someone that might Only shoot 1-2 rounds (yes single rounds) a year

I have talked to guys where this is the case

2 boxes = 40 Rounds = you might be a hoarder
 
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