There are few things finer than the feel of a good revolver. You guys have made me miss owning one, dammit. Now I'm going to have to get one - b*st*rds!
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So what is an entry Wheel gun?
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fat tony
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I would recommend the caliber choice as .357, no question, light .38 wadcutters are extremely accurate and seem to barely recoil more than .22's. Then, you can stoke it up with potent .357's later for more fun.
I would recommend you stay with S&W or Ruger, both make fine stainless revolvers, and S&W's offering a nice 5" 7 shot .357 currently, it's a beauty. Definitely look at the .357 over other calibers for an entry wheelgun, super versatile, super accurate, and cheap ammunition if you don't reload.
This is one of mine it simply sounds as if you'll appreciate, probably the best .357 revolver on the market currently, the S&W 627 performance center model, an 8 shot .357 with a match trigger:
Crap that's not really a cylinder more like a drum!
You got classy taste in revolvers Ardent. How about a Colt Anaconda?
Ardent & Martin have very nice choices as well, in that order by the way.
.44 mag is mighty expensive to shoot all the time, in my opinion.
What about a 686 in .38 super?
I was told the recoil on a .38 super is not as bad as shooting .45 but you can still shoot .38 super in IPSC. Guy at the gun shop told me not to bother with .38 special but I don't believe those folks a lot anymore.
For reference I shoot 9mm no problem but .40 really is too snappy for me. I'm looking into getting into a larger cartridge and really want to go the revolver route rather than another semi-auto.
Hopefully I will be shooting IPSC in the summer of this year.
Tim.
I was told the recoil on a .38 super is not as bad as shooting .45 but you can still shoot .38 super in IPSC. Guy at the gun shop told me not to bother with .38 special but I don't believe those folks a lot anymore.
For reference I shoot 9mm no problem but .40 really is too snappy for me. I'm looking into getting into a larger cartridge and really want to go the revolver route rather than another semi-auto.
Hopefully I will be shooting IPSC in the summer of this year.
Tim.
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I'm buying a 686 (7 shot, 5' barrel, non fluted cylinder) TOMORROW. Will post pics when I get it home.
SONOFA##### this hobby is hard on the old bank account.
SONOFA##### this hobby is hard on the old bank account.
Brutus
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.44 mag is mighty expensive to shoot all the time, in my opinion.
Not so bad if you cast and handload, different power options too.....
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beleive NOTHING the gun shop tells you- and the last i heard, the 38 super is an AUTOMATIC cartridge, and it depends on which 45 you're talking about
for instance my ruger blackhawk takes both 45 colt and 45 acp, with an interchangeable cylinder
the only thing he might have steered you right on was getting 686, and they come in a 38/357- you can use the same gun for both, but only if you're 357 to begin with- if you get a 38 special, you're "stuck" with it- as for a bigger cartridge, you're going to have to define that a little better- your 357 is just a hair bigger than 9mm( 355) or did you mean longer, so you can pack more powder in it and therefore more powerful?
if you meant bigger as far as bore diameter, you're going to have to change your mind on the 686- the next step up is your 44 mag or your 41 mag, which isn't hardly seen anymore, and the 44 is a MAJOR step up in both power and frame size
Thanks for the response t-star!
I really wanted to get a larger cartridge in diameter. Bigger holes on the paper that will get me closer to the 10 point mark on the target.
I can handle the power of 9mm no problem at all but the .40 really is too snappy for me.
Bearing that in mind which model and calibre do you recommend?
Thanks,
Tim.
I really wanted to get a larger cartridge in diameter. Bigger holes on the paper that will get me closer to the 10 point mark on the target.
I can handle the power of 9mm no problem at all but the .40 really is too snappy for me.
Bearing that in mind which model and calibre do you recommend?
Thanks,
Tim.
if you can't handle a 40, you have no business looking at 44/45 unless you use special loads - you'll even find the 357 downright smarts- remember , a revolver recoils differently than an automatic- my best advice- learn to shoot your 38/357 and get accurate- start off with 38 special loads, and get good, and then "graduate " to 357- either the 686 or the gp100 in STAINLESS- i wouldn't get a blued gun now -loaded from factory, the 44 mag is DOUBLE waht a 357 is- and about 100 grains more bullet weight- the name of the game is practice, and bigger holes aren't going to make a difference, as shots are typically measuered centre to centre
Also, look at reloading - 38 target loads can actually be cheaper than 22 to shoot, and then you'll get the full power range from 38 wadcutters up to full power 357 magnums. The cartridge is very easy to reload and you don't need huge dollars worth of equipment to get going.
greetings timothygordon, just some thoughts
i agree with vic in vic, would not the 38 full wadcutters give the extra edge for cutting max size holes for scoring better (on the lines) than any semi wadcutter/ round nose semi auto bullets?
but if you are checking out other guns or models:
how about the smith model with 45 acp full or half moon clips?
never had one, but heard they are even faster (full moon) than the best speedloaders out there
the 40 cal is snappy, but the 45 acp is actually more forgiving with loads that just meet major. bigger bullet but less velocity, move of a shove back in the hand i think
or a smith 6.5 inch 44 magnum, but shooting milder/medium loads, which is my regular loading, the full magnum loads are for outside range use (too much noise and would bother other shooters indoors), and i would put a speedloader full of jacketed at the end to clean out some leading before taking it home to clean. best regards
i agree with vic in vic, would not the 38 full wadcutters give the extra edge for cutting max size holes for scoring better (on the lines) than any semi wadcutter/ round nose semi auto bullets?
but if you are checking out other guns or models:
how about the smith model with 45 acp full or half moon clips?
never had one, but heard they are even faster (full moon) than the best speedloaders out there
the 40 cal is snappy, but the 45 acp is actually more forgiving with loads that just meet major. bigger bullet but less velocity, move of a shove back in the hand i think
or a smith 6.5 inch 44 magnum, but shooting milder/medium loads, which is my regular loading, the full magnum loads are for outside range use (too much noise and would bother other shooters indoors), and i would put a speedloader full of jacketed at the end to clean out some leading before taking it home to clean. best regards
Model 27 or a Python. If you can afford it. You'll never want to sell them. If your budget is like mine, go with a medium frame 357, any domestic maker will do, whatever fits you best, and you can get the best deal on. - dan
Actually I think it's really neat if you look at this whole thread, you'll see that there aren't any 'entry level' wheel guns, most shooters would feel just fine with any of the revolvers mentioned (even Strangeday, and he even has a Mataeba for crying out loud) it's not like semi's where there are "good" and "iffy" and "professional grade" pretty much every North American made 38/357 revolver is ready to go out of the box. This is one place where you really can't get a junk gun. We all have preferences of course, I prefer Smith but I wouldn't feel cheated if someone handed me a Ruger or Colt. Practical accuracy and reliability are equal with all three, pick the one you like the most.
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Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I yakk alot about my 44s, but really my Colt Model 357, ( closely followed by the S&W Heavy Duty 38 ) is more often used, than any other one single pistol of mine.
And as easily guessed, mostly with 38 special fed to it.
And as easily guessed, mostly with 38 special fed to it.
