So what now with Ontario Classifiers

[SVISTI1911]

So now that Virgin Count is gone what has happened to the Ontario Classifiers that were Virginia Count, not to mention Canadian and World classifier's?

 

[raks]

I think new international classifiers are on the way. It was discussed on GV that you could basically simulate Virginia Count (at least in a short stage) by requiring a mandatory reload every 'x' rounds.

 

[JB]

so why did they remove the Virgin Count . Was it because the pray and spray guys couldnt count

 

[euxx]

So now that Virgin Count is gone what has happened to the Ontario Classifiers that were Virginia Count, not to mention Canadian and World classifier's?

The old results are staying, but new results can't be from any of Virginia Count stages. The board is working on adding some new stages. No time frame yet.

 

[Ipsik]

The existing High Hit Fator data for the Ontario classification stages with virginia count can still be used as no one shooting extra rounds will obtain a good score ( same as any comstock stage by the way). So we could simply rewrite the scoring as comstock.

 

[SVISTI1911]

The existing High Hit Fator data for the Ontario classification stages with virginia count can still be used as no one shooting extra rounds will obtain a good score ( same as any comstock stage by the way). So we could simply rewrite the scoring as comstock.

Ok, but is that what is gonna happen or will this be decided at the AGM in April?

 

[PH Racing]

We also have to create the Classic Division Database

 

[PH Racing]

The existing High Hit Fator data for the Ontario classification stages with virginia count can still be used as no one shooting extra rounds will obtain a good score ( same as any comstock stage by the way). So we could simply rewrite the scoring as comstock.

FWIW there were only 3 of the original 10 that were VC, the rest are already Comstock so they are GTG.

 

[SVISTI1911]

FWIW there were only 3 of the original 10 that were VC, the rest are already Comstock so they are GTG.

Yes but the 3 are nice and small, with no steel. and very quick to set up which makes them ideal for indoor ranges. But with the weather we have been having we may be all outside sooner then we think......

 

[SVISTI1911]

We also have to create the Classic Division Database

How is that gonna happen? We don't have any USPSA GMs in Single Stack do we? Or are we just gonna use M.B. as the benchmark since he is a GM in Standard?

 

[PH Racing]

Same way we did it with the rest.

 

[Madness]

How is that gonna happen? We don't have any USPSA GMs in Single Stack do we? Or are we just gonna use M.B. as the benchmark since he is a GM in Standard?

I'm not a GM, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once

 

[PH Racing]

I'm not a GM but I play one on TV

 

[SVISTI1911]

I'm not a GM, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once

No but you are a also ran. I am sure that you left your awesomeness there to let ppl know you had graced that room with your presence.

I think I am a GM though, at least is says it on my license.

 

[MOBILE 1]

I'm not a GM, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once

ya but the floor does not count

 

[Madness]

no #### talking till you actually shoot a match with your own gun

 

[Ipsik]

Originally Posted by SVISTI1911
How is that gonna happen? We don't have any USPSA GMs in Single Stack do we? Or are we just gonna use M.B. as the benchmark since he is a GM in Standard?

Some of us understand basic math using decimals. If Pat H shoots the stage to his best ability and his known USPSA/OCS Classification average is 84% we divide his best HF by.84 and get a HHF which is then averaged out with all the best shooters we can get on the same stage.

 

[SVISTI1911]

Some of us understand basic math using decimals. If Pat H shoots the stage to his best ability and his known USPSA/OCS Classification average is 84% we divide his best HF by.84 and get a HHF which is then averaged out with all the best shooters we can get on the same stage.

Yes but different division no? Or is that his % in single stack? Thanks for enlightening us on basic math btw. Where would we be without you to guide us?

 

[PH Racing]

Thats just for one Division, each one is calculated in a similar fashion, in this instance he is talking about Open, we can likely take Standard Division scores and apply them to Classic division since the mag capacity won't affect the stages in question, or to only a minor amount

 

[SVISTI1911]

Thats just for one Division, each one is calculated in a similar fashion, in this instance he is talking about Open, we can likely take Standard Division scores and apply them to Classic division since the mag capacity won't affect the stages in question, or to only a minor amount

Yes that is understood, that was all taken care of last year. This was a question specifically about the new Classic Division which is similar to Single Stack in USPSA and who would be setting the new HHF for the purposes of establishing classifications in this division.

As close as Standard and Classic maybe they are significantly different due to the types of guns allowed. It is kinda like saying the Open and Modified are the same. Oh wait no such thing as Modified anymore, I guess they were too much alike . OK how about Production is kinda the same as Standard, or at least close enough so why have separate HHF for those divisions? If we want integrity to our Classification system we shouldn't settle for "close enough" or that the "difference is only minor". IMO if it's worth doing, do it properly. I think that with the difference between 8 rounds major PF and 10 rounds minor PF it could be different enough. At that point maybe Production HHF might be just as accurate as the ones for Standard when it comes to establishing ones for Classic.