so, what's so great about the 308 Win cartridge?

Rather than think of it as Jack of all trades, master of none, think of it as master of all trades. There's just nothing it doesn't do well. Will kill all game on this continent. Lots of guys take it to 1000 yards, low recoil, short action, inherent accuracy, cheap brass, what's not to love? Take some Barnes 150gr ttsx over 2900fps and go kill whatever you point it at.
 
It's a bone stock base model F150. Does a good job for most straightforward tasks. Easy to find parts, get work done, dress up. Boring for most "gun guys" though. Many better solutions to specific problems. 308 is the one size fits most, usually.
 
The .308 is the German Shepherd of rifle cartridges. Best at nothing, second best at just about everything. Unlike others, if you do your part it'll do absolutely anything you ask of it.
 
The 308 is probably the second most over rated cartridge on the market. It does absolutely nothing that any number of other cartridges won't do better. It was designed for killing people when fired more efficiently from semi and fully automatic weapons than the 30-06 length cartridge. The 7-08 or 260 are both superior cartridges based on this case and the 243 is my all time favorite play around cartridge. When it comes to serious hunting, I want BCs over .5 and velocities over 3100 fps and the 308 ain't anywhere close to meeting my criteria. Hell even the 358 Win is a superior cartridge when being used for what it was meant for.
Having said this I do happen to own 5 but more for the guns they are housed in. One is a Sako AV full stock carbine, another is a Ruger RSI full stock carbine, a pre 64 Mod 88 and a post 64 Mod 100 and lastly a Sav 99 that I gave my father 40 years ago and inherited back, there might even be another one or two lurking in my vault that I have forgotten.
I don't hate the cartridge like the 270 class, but I have no love for it either. It really is just a BLAAAHHHH cartridge..........Hell I even think the 303 Brit or 30-30 is ###ier than the 308.

Dont forget the 7mm-08
 
I have a few and although I don't hunt anymore, I don't see a whole lot wrong with this cartridge. Cool or not? Who decides on this ranking?
 
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In have one in:
Browning BLR
Savage 99
Thompson Center Pro-Hunter
Browning BAR Hog Stalker

Gees apparently I don't own a bolt, hmmmm
 
Can you think of another cartridge that has more options? Between all the various component manufacturers, and tried and tested loads all over the interwebz, you could load and shoot a "different" 308 cartridge ever day for the rest of your life. Not to mention, that there's likely no other cartridge that has as many models of rifle offered in it...

If you're into that sort of thing.
 
The 308 is probably the second most over rated cartridge on the market. It does absolutely nothing that any number of other cartridges won't do better. It was designed for killing people when fired more efficiently from semi and fully automatic weapons than the 30-06 length cartridge. The 7-08 or 260 are both superior cartridges based on this case and the 243 is my all time favorite play around cartridge. When it comes to serious hunting, I want BCs over .5 and velocities over 3100 fps and the 308 ain't anywhere close to meeting my criteria. Hell even the 358 Win is a superior cartridge when being used for what it was meant for.
Having said this I do happen to own 5 but more for the guns they are housed in. One is a Sako AV full stock carbine, another is a Ruger RSI full stock carbine, a pre 64 Mod 88 and a post 64 Mod 100 and lastly a Sav 99 that I gave my father 40 years ago and inherited back, there might even be another one or two lurking in my vault that I have forgotten.
I don't hate the cartridge like the 270 class, but I have no love for it either. It really is just a BLAAAHHHH cartridge..........Hell I even think the 303 Brit or 30-30 is ###ier than the 308.

The 260 is pretty awesome I had a Ruger compact in 260 had to sell it wen I was out of work
it was not the lightest rifle with the laminated stock but the 16" barrel made it realy handy and one of my all time Favorite rifles
 
You know what I'd do with that one Rembo, seeing as how you are considering a 25 Souper.........I'd do a 25-284, hell of a cartridge, 25-06 in a short action. Huntingtons stocks the dies and Lapua and Norma make good 6.5-284 brass to make your cases from.
 
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Cheap, readily available, versatile enough, lots of reloading options, and guns designed for it are usually lighter shorter and handier. I don't understand what makes a cartridge ###y or exotic to some of you guys. If the 308 is granny panties and the missionary position I'll take it. I don't have time tinker and eff around within the slightest nuances/margins of this hobby. I read some of the sh*t that some of you get up to and I'm amazed at the amount of free time you can devote to utterly irrelevant stuff. With a wife, kid, dog, demanding job I'm just happy to get shooting once in a while and if a new rifle can't shoot well with a few different bullet combinations/loads it will be gone. I'd never own a picky rifle long enough to figure what it liked, forget that sh*t. Some shooters/hunters I meet have been divorced numerous times, live in squalor, have zero life beyond their basement and the gun range. Maybe that's the level of commitment required to start seeing caliber as "###y"

Patrick
 
Cheap, readily available, versatile enough, lots of reloading options, and guns designed for it are usually lighter shorter and handier. I don't understand what makes a cartridge ###y or exotic to some of you guys. If the 308 is granny panties and the missionary position I'll take it. I don't have time tinker and eff around within the slightest nuances/margins of this hobby. I read some of the sh*t that some of you get up to and I'm amazed at the amount of free time you can devote to utterly irrelevant stuff. With a wife, kid, dog, demanding job I'm just happy to get shooting once in a while and if a new rifle can't shoot well with a few different bullet combinations/loads it will be gone. I'd never own a picky rifle long enough to figure what it liked, forget that sh*t. Some shooters/hunters I meet have been divorced numerous times, live in squalor, have zero life beyond their basement and the gun range. Maybe that's the level of commitment required to start seeing caliber as "###y"

Patrick

There are many levels that a hunter/firearms enthusiast can exist on. Some like yourself view firearms more along the line of a tool........if it isn't functioning as it is supposed to do get rid of it and get the correct one. There is nothing wrong with this approach and this level of involvement in the game. Others of us have a much deeper interest in the science of the sport and what makes one rifle accurate and another identical one not shoot as well. I can tell you one can be obsessed with this branch of science and not have to live in squalor, I am and I don't.......won't get into the divorce thing though. I have had a very busy and interesting life beyond my obsession with firearms, so it is possible to not spend your life in the basement and still feed the obsession.
Sometimes I envy people like you who have an interest and exercise this interest in a much more casual demeanor than what I can seem to manage. Being retired now I should have more time to devote to my hobby/obsession but I bought 34 acres instead and now I must divide my time between my guns and maintenance of the property and house and shop and on...and on...and on. Apparently I'm still too busy to spend the amount of time I would like to spend at it, but I do get to spend a fair bit.
I have had an insatiable desire to learn about everything ballistic and sporting firearm related since I was old enough to say "gun". It is not genetic as my father was borderline anti gun, it just is what it is. All this may be irrelevant sh!t to you and doesn't mesh well with your lifestyle.......it just is what it is.
I know guys who can quote you the score from every NHL/NFL/CFL/NBA game for the last 5 years and maybe 10 and who scored the winning goal/touchdown whatever. Now I consider this to be absolutely irrelevant drivel, what has been learned, what value is it ? But they still have to know it for whatever reason. You want to talk about a waste of valuable time, watching all those games on TV every week and talking incessantly with their buddies about it........not for me. I could be spending that time shooting, hunting, reloading, gunsmithing, flying, working on my '55 Bel Aire, building new counter tops, cleaning my shop, riding my horses..........point is we are all busy, what you choose to do with your free time is entirely up to you.
I also managed to raise 2 families during my working years and for a significant portion of that I was a single parent.........while owning and running 2 businesses with up to 10 employees. It's all in how you prioritize your time and how efficient you choose to function.
 
I hardly qualify to offer my opinion, but I will anyway. .308 Winchester is like the 6.5 x 55, in that they both seem to be easy to shoot, make a rifle accurate by doing their part without breaking the bank or your shoulder. I have never owned a "new" rifle, as in a new sporting model. However, I did latch on to a really nice Model 14 Savage stainless, wood stocked rifle that has fired one box of .308 factory. I think I will keep that rifle and put a nice Leupold scope on it and use it for Sunday afternoon target shooting.
 
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