So - who else has a non-refurb Russkie?

Curtton · Jan 24, 2009

huntandhook said:
How do you tell if a rifle is unissued or not? Do they mark rifles when they are issued?

once your rifle pass the non-refurb test then you need to look for signs that your SKS have not been fired. there are no "issued" stamp.

basicly what you are looking for signs of wear.

-start with the bolt face. is it clean and shinny? no ring .
-wear on extractor .
-wear on top and under the bolt .
-any mark left by the extension rod on front of carrier?
-wear on the tracks.
-marks on feedramp, chamber and bore.
-on the trigger group, hammer, sear disconnect.
-look inside gas tube.
-tail end of gas rod.

you are looking for worn area where bluing suppose to be, like on butt plate. im sure i missed a few more but you get the idea.

bear in mind your rifle has been test fired so you are looking for signs it been fired more than 5 times.

smartbomb · Jan 24, 2009

Mine's Tula '55 nonrefurb, unissued... and from what I can tell, it hasn't been fired except for the test rounds. Only downside is, it has some dings on the stock, but it's not too bad I guess. Golden Bayo as well. I got it from Epps, and apparently it was the last one they had when I bought it... so I probably missed out on the really really good unissued rifles.

Curtton · Jan 24, 2009

smartbomb said:
Mine's Tula '55 nonrefurb, unissued... and from what I can tell, it hasn't been fired except for the test rounds. Only downside is, it has some dings on the stock, but it's not too bad I guess. Golden Bayo as well. I got it from Epps, and apparently it was the last one they had when I bought it... so I probably missed out on the really really good unissued rifles.

if you bot yours from epps and if they said its unissued then i'll bet it is unissued, they know what to look for and besides they only had 60 to sort.

Norseman · Jan 24, 2009

smartbomb said:
I got it from Epps, and apparently it was the last one they had when I bought it... so I probably missed out on the really really good unissued rifles.

Damn it, I thought I got the last of them.

stue · Jan 25, 2009

stue said:
I thin i have one as well but there is refurbished mark on cleaning rod!

While cleaning it, i found that it was shot - there was some soot in gas tube and snuff on gas piston. So is it from service? I got it from Elwood Epps.

metallic · Jan 30, 2009

I got a 1953 Tula non-refurb from Frontier. All matching serials, non forced, very few signs of wear except for dings on the stock. Checked for all the earmarks of refurb, didn't find any. It may even be unissued, I couldn't tell whether it had been fired or not, but there's not a lot of wear around the bolt, etc. ####ing sweet!

johnnylo · Jan 30, 2009

I also got a Tula 1953 from frontier. It is all matching, no refurb marks, No signs of firing but it must have been test fired. You could not find a better one.

To be 100% I need to know what teh marking with the M inside it is and what the stamps are by the stock lug. They are not on the stock of my refurb and I have been told they are inspectors marks that would only be on an original unaltered stock. there is also a 10 in a crircle on the butt on the cocking handle side. Also has the gold bayo
1953 Tula all matching no forced stamps

there are several marks that I am not sure what they are
first is beside the serial number it looks to be a M in a triangle, the wood also has several stamps under there

underside of the grip has several stamps.

eos · Jan 30, 2009

What looks to be a "10" is most likely an inspector marking in the form of the Cyrillic letter "yu"

metallic · Jan 30, 2009

johnnylo said:
I also got a Tula 1953 from frontier. It is all matching, no refurb marks, No signs of firing but it must have been test fired. You could not find a better one.

To be 100% I need to know what teh marking with the M inside it is and what the stamps are by the stock lug. They are not on the stock of my refurb and I have been told they are inspectors marks that would only be on an original unaltered stock. there is also a 10 in a crircle on the butt on the cocking handle side. Also has the gold bayo
1953 Tula all matching no forced stamps

Mine looks exactly the same, same markings you couldn't identify and probably hasn't been fired I am thinking now.

Chemist · Jan 30, 2009

So what does the golden bayonet mean? I've got an unissued on the way from EPPS.

enfielder · Jan 30, 2009

Woodbeef · Jan 30, 2009

Nice looking laminate. I could only get the first 4 pages to open,so I'm not sure what else was pictured. The exterior looks un-refurbed,but it's the insides that count.

Curtton · Jan 30, 2009

enfielder said:
I am thinking this piece is unissued, but don't have the expertise in SKS's to say for sure.

If I am reading Curtton's sticky correctly, she's a '56 Tula complete with laminate stock.

Range test: no sight adjustment necessary and no stopages.

yours is the best presentation i have seen since the arrival of SKS45 , lots of close up of individual parts on neautral background (carpet), the only improvement i could ask for is that it should be on photobucket IMG forum board, easier to view.

yes, i will agree, from i could see you did have a unfired/unissued but do you have an original laminated stock ? we need to see the markings around the front crossbolt , left side. im keeping my fingers cross.

Woodbeef · Jan 30, 2009

Enfielder where did you pick that one up from? Was it one of the ones from Epps this week?

enfielder · Jan 31, 2009

I added pictures to my original post of the left and right stock (at the forward crossbolt), hope they show well enough.

For now I am going to decline respectfully from naming the gunshop where it came from, but will say it is an IZH import.

Woodbeef · Jan 31, 2009

No problem. I was just wondering if it was one of the laminates that was listed on their website as being sold.

It has the right stamps around the front recoil lug,and on the right side of the stock. Looks all original to me. I'd say it was probably an un-issued when you picked it up. Very Good Score there Sir. Very Nice!

johnnylo · Jan 31, 2009

ENFIELDER

yours looks the same as mine, same stamps by the cross bolt. Nice to have gotten lucky and got an unissued. I will not be shooting mine. Have a refurb for that...

Curtton · Jan 31, 2009

second myth busted

enfielder said:
I added pictures to my original post of the left and right stock (at the forward crossbolt), hope they show well enough.

For now I am going to decline respectfully from naming the gunshop where it came from, but will say it is an IZH import.

the myth is that there is no such thing as an original laminated on a non-refurb russian SKS , they thought all laminated was installed during refubishing.

im satisfied the markings around the front crossbolt proves it was originally installed on your SKS and not during refurb.

thanks for the pics.

DAR 701 · Jan 31, 2009

I do! A pair of 1954 rifles. All matching, non refurb with golden bayonets. One has been fired a couple of rounds, the other, zero rounds.

OC-3 · Jan 31, 2009

Here's mine.

The monkeys that pinned the mag left a very bad weld that prevented the magazine follower from fully rising. I had to file the sides of the weld down and cold blue before the bolt hold open would function.

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