So who thinks the .44 mag is p***y in a rifle?

Not sure what loads you might be using but a typical 240 grain factory load should be 5-6 inches low at 100m if zeroed at 50m. Conversely, if zeroed at 100m it should hit about 3 inches high at 50m.
Yeah, I'd like to know what ammo he is using that is zeroed at 50 but drops 5 feet and hits the ground 30 feet before reaching 100 yards. Airsoft plastic bullets perhaps? :rolleyes:
 
I think he just got tired of people who knew much less, telling him how it really was.
CGN has changed a lot since it was restarted in 2004. Many of the old Fudd crowd has been replaced with a younger member with different interests. Heavy moderation is another factor.
 
CGN has changed a lot since it was restarted in 2004. Many of the old Fudd crowd has been replaced with a younger member with different interests. Heavy moderation is another factor.

Ahh don't worry, I started out here as a younger member with different interests but as the years go by I become more Fudd. Traded the semis and black stuff for levers and blue with walnut. Even started buying wool clothing! There is hope for us yet.
 
Wow!!!! 100 yards! How does that happen? I have a Deerfield and when properly sighted in at 50 yards, a move to the 100 yard targets see the bullets hitting the dirt 30 feet in front of the target and at least 5 feet below them.

For shooting at 100 yards, one must be using quite a bit of hold over. I would certainly agree that at 50 yards or less, the rifle is awesome but as has been previously pointed out in this thread, one must live within the limitations of the cartridge. I have a 450 Marlin as well, and it is in a totally different category wrt to power and trajectory. Still a short range proposition, but in a very different ball game. At the end of the day, a .44mag rifle appropriately applied at short range is an awesome choice for big game.

Wow. This is a fine example of why BIGRED isn't here.



Edited to add factual information and an explanation for being snarky towards a comment that appears to publicly doubt the accuracy of the original post.
 
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<------- I do.......... never understood the attraction of setting limits...... unless it involves a limited season where you need to use a lesser "weapon"..........

That I what I think. Nothing wrong with the 44 Rem Mag it self but at bottom it is a pistol round. IMHO, there are better rounds for short range hunting.
 
CGN has changed a lot since it was restarted in 2004. Many of the old Fudd crowd has been replaced with a younger member with different interests. Heavy moderation is another factor.
Yeah, the moderation does seem a little much at times. I can see why it drives some away. Guess you gotta be in the club ...
 
That I what I think. Nothing wrong with the 44 Rem Mag it self but at bottom it is a pistol round. IMHO, there are better rounds for short range hunting.

With a handle like Gibbs505 I see why you feel like that! LOL
BTW, thanks for all the girls with guns contributions.

I used to sneer at the little .44 as well. But I bought that lever as a companion to my Ruger .44 Mag Vaquero that I have my ATC for on my trapline. Then I noticed that the .44 goes POP instead of BOOM out of a 20 inch barrel. My old ears dont ring so bad with it. So I decided to try it one year. It was fun popping the head off of hares out to about 75 yards or so on the logging roads. It was so light and handy I had to try while dogging for deer one year. It kills as well as an 06 out to 150 yards or so...if you use the right bullet for the task. With a soft cast lead bullet or even a jacketed hollow point it is lightning on deer. With a hard cast 300 gr with a wide meplat it leaves a 60 calibre permanent wound channel and gives enough penetration to exit on a broadside shot on bull moose. Best part is there isnt much bloodshot meat. Casting my own bullets, and using less than 20 grains of 2400 I keep my per round cost to under 20 cents!

Nobody would ever pass over a 358 Winchester as a short range killer. They throw a 275gr slug at 2000 FPS or so(Lyman manual). The little 44 is capable of a 300 gr at 1700 FPS. Whole different beast out of a rifle vs a handgun.

I dont think it is the be all and end all...but what it can do is beyond the first glance.
 
With a handle like Gibbs505 I see why you feel like that! LOL
BTW, thanks for all the girls with guns contributions.

I used to sneer at the little .44 as well. But I bought that lever as a companion to my Ruger .44 Mag Vaquero that I have my ATC for on my trapline. Then I noticed that the .44 goes POP instead of BOOM out of a 20 inch barrel. My old ears dont ring so bad with it. So I decided to try it one year. It was fun popping the head off of hares out to about 75 yards or so on the logging roads. It was so light and handy I had to try while dogging for deer one year. It kills as well as an 06 out to 150 yards or so...if you use the right bullet for the task. With a soft cast lead bullet or even a jacketed hollow point it is lightning on deer. With a hard cast 300 gr with a wide meplat it leaves a 60 calibre permanent wound channel and gives enough penetration to exit on a broadside shot on bull moose. Best part is there isnt much bloodshot meat. Casting my own bullets, and using less than 20 grains of 2400 I keep my per round cost to under 20 cents!

Nobody would ever pass over a 358 Winchester as a short range killer. They throw a 275gr slug at 2000 FPS or so(Lyman manual). The little 44 is capable of a 300 gr at 1700 FPS. Whole different beast out of a rifle vs a handgun.

I dont think it is the be all and end all...but what it can do is beyond the first glance.

Thanks for the compliment! I enjoy posting them.
I just posted my personal opinion. Others should feel open to disagree.

I am glad to see that the 44 works well for you!
Cheers.
 
Nothing wrong with the 44 Rem Mag it self but at bottom it is a pistol round. IMHO, there are better rounds for short range hunting.
True on both counts but the .44 mag in a rifle fills a niche not available in Canada due to the handgun laws. All the portability of a rimfire and vastly better stopping power. A .270 Gold Dot @ 1,600+ fps isn't to be sneezed at.
 
My Marlin special load is a Sierra 210 gr hollow cavity not going to say charge but it is max and you can break 2000fps , if you see the this damage done within 100 yards on deer or moose you will believe!
 
I have loaded up some 44 Magnum reduced loads for those who want to try the 44 without the kick. 240 Grain Lead and 6 - 7 grains of Bullseye powder and you have a laser beam load with little to no recoil. I tried those in a Marlin 1894 and found they won't make the target at 100 yards. Any other factory or hunting reload has no problem, 1 1/2" high at 50 yards and you have zero at 100 yards. I am not sure what your shooting for ammunition as the pistol has a similar trajectory with decent loads.
Wow!!!! 100 yards! How does that happen? I have a Deerfield and when properly sighted in at 50 yards, a move to the 100 yard targets see the bullets hitting the dirt 30 feet in front of the target and at least 5 feet below them.

For shooting at 100 yards, one must be using quite a bit of hold over. I would certainly agree that at 50 yards or less, the rifle is awesome but as has been previously pointed out in this thread, one must live within the limitations of the cartridge. I have a 450 Marlin as well, and it is in a totally different category wrt to power and trajectory. Still a short range proposition, but in a very different ball game. At the end of the day, a .44mag rifle appropriately applied at short range is an awesome choice for big game.
 
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