So why are none of us Hunters talking about the 30 x 30 Intiative?
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Ardent
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And I hope they don’t, I put that up for a reason. He’s just a man, and a reasonable one. As I told him, never voted NDP, never going to, but he earned my respect. Being able to respect and share your own very different views with those you disagree with is what I teach my kids, it’s Canada. Those who yell at TVs and subscribe to infowars, I don’t expect to understand.
Cut yourselves out of conversations with those you disagree with, and you’re only crapping in your own drawers and yelling from the sidelines. Said it before, will say it again, he listened to what I do, asked questions, and I gave him the same respect. That’s Canada to me.
Cut yourselves out of conversations with those you disagree with, and you’re only crapping in your own drawers and yelling from the sidelines. Said it before, will say it again, he listened to what I do, asked questions, and I gave him the same respect. That’s Canada to me.
“To denigrate something as a “conspiracy theory” without having fully investigated the data is an act of cowardice. You cause an affront to those who offer the possibility that harm is being done to innocent people, just to avoid confrontation with your own fears of it being true.”
That’s where you’re at in this, you’ve come in on one leg. For a big picture viewer you should be taking a fresh look now. I’m also a big picture viewer of the world. You’ll need to come another 20 or 30,000’ up and have a fresh look, lots more dots to connect.
How many hot button topics forced down our throats over the past few years? That’s not normal. Divide and conquer, the two party divide, used many times to overthrow a public starting to figure it out. The topics are being rolled out one after the other, create hatred between us and get us to do all the work.
60’s – oil is gone in 10 years
70’s – another ice age in 10 years
80’s – acid rain will destroy all crops in 10 years
90’s – ozone layer gone in 10 years
2000 – ice caps gone in 10 years
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. None of that happened but all resulted in us paying more taxes. You still want to listen to this bought and paid for ‘science’? Awake yet?
The ruling class war on the truth:
Socrates: exposed elites of Athens as fools, was forced to drink hemlock.
Jesus: right about everything, nailed to a tree.
Thousands of midwives and natural healers: reducing pain and helping ordinary people, burned at the stake for being witches.
MLK, Jr. & RFK, SR: worked to build a society based on love, assassinated by the CIA.
JFK stood against, assassinated, CIA coined term ‘conspiracy theorist’ shortly after, 60 years later we learn CIA assassinated JFK. Marinate on that.
Truth tellers of covid era hunted like dogs by the pharma state, deplatformed, fired, blacklisted for providing life saving information to the public.
See a pattern developing yet? Connecting dots yet? Each era the brilliant insights and truth/freedom fighters are met with brutality from the ruling class.
Fake mainstream media exposed.
Pharma industry exposed.
Rhino’s exposed (two party governments both working for same agenda, left & right)
Pedowood exposed.
Racisim narrative exposed. (two party divide again)
Elite pedo’s exposed. (Epstein island, no one arrested yet from flight logs, turdeau was on that list…but those who stand against get arrested don’t they, pastor from alberta, chris sky (26 times), bannon, tate, trump likely next, connect them dots), turdeau blackface is involved in how many scandals such as snc-lavlin? How bout paying off family of minor he raped? In what sane rational world does this guy win leadership of a great nation if not fully captured? The tip of the iceberg on turdeau if we know this much)
CDC/WHO/FDA exposed.
Three letter agencies exposed.
WEF exposed.
And I’m missing many but we’ve never had this much disclosure about how big this swamp has grown.
They don’t have to defeat us, just distract us. That’s you’re learning about now.
Wars all over to ensure all the other places kept in line and keep distracted, money makers for them. ‘The time to make money is when blood runs in the streets’ And every few decades a really big world war. I would think nuclear war would be a great distraction for when the majority figures out the vaxx thing. It’s getting harder for them to cheat, make no mistake…they want war. It’s been their answer everytime things about to get out of control for them.
The ‘experts’ were never wrong, they were always lying, big difference.
Feb 2022, martial law and Canadians beaten in order to avoid even talking about mandates. Sept 2022 suspended mandates. What science changed in those 7 months? Or was it politics?
So we’re theorists for questioning known liars? Interesting dot to connect.
“All truth passes through three stages, First it is ridiculed, Second, it is violently opposed, Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” – Arthur Schopenhauer
Despite education and intelligence levels the majority are now finding out how they would have reacted in 1930’s Germany. Thinking no way they would have been of the majority public nudged to the unthinkable. Yes you are, that’s just how it is, that’s how powerful it is, and they’ve known how to do this to the majority for millennia. We all will easily agree with the statement that ‘smart people learned long ago how to nudge public perception’ but then majority will say ‘but not me’…fascinating stuff the psychological parts of all this. We will be educating this going forward as that’s how you can keep it from happening but first we have to learn about it, cope, and then come together appropriately. If you’re interested in this a couple head starts, milgram’s experiments in the 60’s where 65% of population will kill someone because and authority figure told them to. Or the Asch experiments in the 50’s around social pressure from majority group could affect a person to conform, people were willing to ignore reality in order to conform to the group.
For humanity to grow upward we still need to use the same simple formula to do so. 1. You need to know where you came from. 2. You need to know where you are. Then 3. You can grow the right way from that information.
We’re at peak illusion and false world, peak inversion of the truth. It’s going to be a bit difficult for the next little bit yet but hang in there, this will get going the right way, our job is to connect the dots and come together. Proof of this statement? How bout all significant females awards now going to males. Why all the pressure to turn boys into girls and vice versa? When a population is made to believe such madness then they are easily controlled and when the real horrors start will be easily accepted.
So if you invert that information, hide that information, distract from that information then we only go the wrong direction. Well, for the majority class, but not for the ruling class that we’re all starting to learn about now. It goes very well for them, always has, always does, we’re gonna flip that script now though so hang in there. We could use a few thousand years of going the right direction. We all have to dig in now and be braver than we ever have before. We are on the same team.
And OBVIOUSLY these people can’t be known about or we would fix the problem. They have always had to remain in shadows and distract us etc. If you work against humanity and we know about it we will eliminate the problem. Welcome to what’s happening now. We are shining a light into all those dark corners that became overflowing with their evil and greed. The most successful people going forward will have the ability to unlearn and relearn. We’re about to blow this whole thing wide open.
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True. It’s why I keep saying the journey to the truth is the heaviest load most will ever have to carry. When you need a hand moving a couch who’s got their hands up? The minority no doubt. Brace yourselves if you’re in that group that just wants to ‘live your best life’ and dismiss anything that gets in the way of it in hopes you’re own actions and behaviours can remain in a comfortable place under the carpet...no one gets to keep doing that. This is coming to a head right now and we’re all going to face it. Humanity wins or loses, it’s more than a big deal what’s happening right now. Go in voluntarily, or be dragged in by your ankles kicking and screaming, either way you’re going in, you get to choose how.
Ardent
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To those outraged at the state of Canada, I have one suggestion to give yourself the perspective you’re trying to say we’re missing; travel and work abroad, in South America / Africa / Asia.
We have it so good in this country at the worst of times compared to the average citizen of this planet. The vast majority of the world would give their left arm to be here and have the same opportunities. Our good fortune is evidenced by the fact we can all sit around and argue on the internet about things the majority don’t have time for. Get out and use that freedom, rather than bemoan the state of one of the best places in the world to live. But I get these political gripes have become a form of entertainment, an impassioned time pass for many, the media has helped make it that way.
As for the state of the environment, I’ve already seen 600+ year old old growth logged in drainages I hunted extensively, when there’s but a handful percent left of the former stands of it. I’ve seen where my grandfather used to hunt moose close to the family farm, where you can’t find a moose within a couple hours now. And I’ve seen BC caribou herds go extinct, climbed a glacier 20 years ago that no longer exists, seen a salmon run disappear on the family farm, seen the destruction in the Amazon, hunted the dwindling islands of game African, list goes on. You’re going to have a hard time telling me the environment is getting better and it’s all hysteria, especially if you’re basing your judgements on info from the contrarian side of the internet.
We have it so good in this country at the worst of times compared to the average citizen of this planet. The vast majority of the world would give their left arm to be here and have the same opportunities. Our good fortune is evidenced by the fact we can all sit around and argue on the internet about things the majority don’t have time for. Get out and use that freedom, rather than bemoan the state of one of the best places in the world to live. But I get these political gripes have become a form of entertainment, an impassioned time pass for many, the media has helped make it that way.
As for the state of the environment, I’ve already seen 600+ year old old growth logged in drainages I hunted extensively, when there’s but a handful percent left of the former stands of it. I’ve seen where my grandfather used to hunt moose close to the family farm, where you can’t find a moose within a couple hours now. And I’ve seen BC caribou herds go extinct, climbed a glacier 20 years ago that no longer exists, seen a salmon run disappear on the family farm, seen the destruction in the Amazon, hunted the dwindling islands of game African, list goes on. You’re going to have a hard time telling me the environment is getting better and it’s all hysteria, especially if you’re basing your judgements on info from the contrarian side of the internet.
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A lot of people don't get it and never will. ^^^ This guy gets it. Good post.
What Glacier? I'm sitting 10 feet away from a Glacial Erratic, that Glacier melting was the best thing that ever happened here.
What happened to the Moose and Caribou? Wolves eat them?
I do agree it is morally questionable to cut down a Centuries old tree in the year 2023.
I've been to South America and Africa, this country is on the path to be Argentina or Venezuela.
Ardent
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You’re an interesting man MiG, with an interesting handle to boot, one of the greatest planes ever to have the audacity to be built. I’d enjoy hearing your life story one day.
The glacier was in Bolivia, two in the same area disappeared since then. This said, in the day job see dozens of glaciers on their last legs down to small slabs the size of buildings. I don’t considered ice a living thing, so I don’t feel particular sadness seeing it happen, but I do understand the effect glaciers have at dispensing metered water all summer and what they mean for everything downstream.
The moose and caribou were both development, too many people too many getting shot / hit / habitat fragmented and developed. The caribou don’t deal well with human development at all, but that’s not a big secret. The wolves do like our clear cuts, power line right of ways, pipelines, and roads though.
The glacier was in Bolivia, two in the same area disappeared since then. This said, in the day job see dozens of glaciers on their last legs down to small slabs the size of buildings. I don’t considered ice a living thing, so I don’t feel particular sadness seeing it happen, but I do understand the effect glaciers have at dispensing metered water all summer and what they mean for everything downstream.
The moose and caribou were both development, too many people too many getting shot / hit / habitat fragmented and developed. The caribou don’t deal well with human development at all, but that’s not a big secret. The wolves do like our clear cuts, power line right of ways, pipelines, and roads though.
Hell yes we do, whole heartedly agree, best place on earth. Many old enough in those countries old enough too see the days before the rise of their current regimes would have said the same thing too. I know this because I’ve heard it first hand. You don’t have to stoop to the level of infowars or believing in baby blood conspiracies to see we aren’t on the greatest trajectory politically. Daily you see the blatant corruption, foreign interference, the lies, the utter lack of accountability. The need to regulate, prohibit or tax some aspect of our lives. One only needs to look at how the liberals handled the CSIS leaks. There’s no denying there’s a certain level of admiration Trudeau has for a certain counter try and a certain way or governing. About as bad a trajectory as we are on environmentally as well, I’ve seen the same story’s play out here in NW Bc, there’s no denying something needs to go change on that front too
Hell yes we do, whole heartedly agree, best place on earth. We’re lucky to have such freedom. Many old enough in those countries old enough too see the days before the rise of their current regimes would have said the same thing too.I’ve heard and spoken about it with those who’ve seen it first hand. You don’t have to stoop to the level of infowars or believing in new world order reptilians drinking baby blood to see we aren’t on the greatest trajectory politically. Daily you see the blatant corruption, foreign interference, the lies, the utter lack of accountability. The need to regulate, prohibit or tax some aspect of our lives. They changed our anthems, our money, our passport, our place names, they’ve allowed the removal and vandalism of statues depicting g the people that built this country, we’ve been declared a post national state with no core identity. How is this baby blood level stuff? There’s no denying there’s a certain level of admiration Trudeau has for a certain country and a certain way of governing. His own MPs have spoken to this multiple times.
Here’s a good example that’s ties in well from my own grandparents experience, comes to my mind ESPECIALLY when seeing how the NS shooting showed us all how in bed with the liberals the rcmp is right up to the highest levels, the decade long purge of high ranking officers of all branches of our military , many of whom where falsely accused and acquired yet careers ruined, followed up by their replacements with progressive, tow the line types.
Before and after the war they thought it was the greatest place on Earth, you couldn’t have convinced them otherwise.
“Matters came to a head in February 1948, when Nosek illegally extended his powers by attempting to purge remaining non-Communist elements in the National Police Force. The security apparatus and police were being transformed into instruments of the KSČ, and consequently, according to John Grenville, endangering basic civic freedoms.”
And we know how that turned out, or I guess I’m just too deep into the baby blood
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All perfectly true though shed no tears for planet earth, she has shaken all the pieces flat and rebuilt from bare earth quite a few times in geological history. All our devastations are nothing compared to the forces of nature. As for glaciers, in the Columbia Icefield they began to recede about 1830, so humans had nowt to do with that.
Cutting down the old growth is bad, not milling it here and adding and extracting maximum value is just as bad, but politicians are cheaper than lumber and journalists are even cheaper than politicians. And the people? Nah, they've got plans for the weekend.
'Life's better here'? Meaning we've got a bit farther to fall before we get to the level of social, political and economic corruption and inefficiency that characterizes most of the 2nd and 3rd Word?
'It's all good'? So just enjoy your best life and don't think too much?
Superficially it sounds like a sort of easy-going common sense, but it could just as truly be described as emblematic of the selfishness and lack of civic involvement that characterizes diseased and dying societies.
Ardent
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We have a little blue book that lets us go back to being outraged in comfort, with no famine and food in the store, no shells falling on our kids schools, no HIV epidemic, no malaria, and jobs available.
Imperfect, of course, but amongst the best places we could have lucked into being on earth. Doesn’t mean don’t try to make it better, means don’t lose sight of the big picture.
I agree earth, and life will continue on after us, unfeeling. I don’t see that personally as an argument to just give up as a species.
Imperfect, of course, but amongst the best places we could have lucked into being on earth. Doesn’t mean don’t try to make it better, means don’t lose sight of the big picture.
I agree earth, and life will continue on after us, unfeeling. I don’t see that personally as an argument to just give up as a species.
Good old Bolivia, where even though technically in the Tropics when the sun goes down I'd swear it hits -20 in 20 minutes. Where the Beer is so cold you can barely hold on to it and it is so syrupy sweet that it's nauseating, El Inca I think it was called.
Around here the Caribou were fed to the Wolves and the Moose (calves) to the Bears.
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unstableryan
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Most people in the vicinity of the "South Okanagan-Similkameen National Park Reserve" don't want it.
It's just keeping white people out of half of a valley.
It's just keeping white people out of half of a valley.
Some of you are doing some serious mental gymnastics in order to reach the conclusion that 30 x 30 is bad.
More protected wilderness and initiatives to maintain wild places wild, should be celebrated. I've yet to see evidence that these lands would be protected from all use, including recreational.
Not everything is a conspiracy theory.
More protected wilderness and initiatives to maintain wild places wild, should be celebrated. I've yet to see evidence that these lands would be protected from all use, including recreational.
Not everything is a conspiracy theory.
Ardent
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Malt liquor is the best name for that stuff, no headache like a 13,000’ Bolivian malt liquor morning headache. I got stuck there in 2003 during the gas protests when the country all but shut down, drank my share of it and coca tea to fix the headache.
