So You Think It's Ok To....

[Uplandguy]

Dad, is that you?

Beat me to it

 

[hunter5425]

Maybe you'r twins.

 

[1963beretta]

I've been using an 870 with Remchokes since the mid 90's (started when I was like 10). Anyway, long story short, I've always used a full choke in that shotgun. The thing is, the choke is marked "for steel and lead use". And haven't blown my cawk off yet. Is it safe? Or should I buy a kevlar codpiece?

Interesting. I havent seen a choke marked as full for both steel and lead. Usually its marked full for lead and mod for steel. Learn something new everyday. I bet if you actually measured the constriction on that choke, it will likely have a slighly larger bore the a remchoke marked as full lead

 

[Dorian Gray]

I prefer 14th century.

You have excellent taste, sir.

Interesting. I havent seen a choke marked as full for both steel and lead. Usually its marked full for lead and mod for steel. Learn something new everyday. I bet if you actually measured the constriction on that choke, it will likely have a slighly larger bore the a remchoke marked as full lead

I'm on my phone so I can't do much for copying and pasting links but just go to Google and type in "Remchoke 12 gauge full flush steel or lead" and it'll bring you some links to where you can find them. I actually got a new one in the mail today from Remington Canada (Gravel Agency) because I ordered a new one without looking at my old one last week. So now I have 2. If I can get my 18.5" barrel threaded for Remchokes over the winter I'll put it in there and it'll make a great, handy package for grouse hunting. I suspect your right about the constriction. Remington advises not to use shot bigger than #4 when shooting steel with these chokes just in case.

 

[catnthehatt]

So what's happening here? The steel shot is in the shot cup as it enters the choke. It shouldn't occupy any more space than lead shot. The wad must pass through the full choke and the shot cup is no larger in diameter than the wad. I understand that steel doesn't compress as much as lead shot but I would think there is no compressing happening as the shot travels down the barrel. Is there really such a small tolerance for expansion as the shot goes through the choke or is something else happening?

Lead has great lubricity and steel does not .
Couple that with the fact that lead compresses when constricted and steel does not so it has to length it's column inside the choke and you get the picture Steel will bridge and bulge a choke if it cannot lengthen its column in time .
Cat

 

[joeyclimbing]

You raised the same point with me a few weeks ago and as a result my Model 12 heavy duck is in at nearby GunTech just now for modification before I leave for Lake Winnipeg. It was either that or go for the special bismuth (sp?) shot. The is that I have boxes many boxes of lead shot left and I can see the temptation, but safety comes first.

 

[Maritime Storm]

According to Remington's sight, the flush full choke is advertised for lead and steel. That having been said, the patterns from shooting steel through a full choke are usually pretty deplorable. I'm wondering if the real issue here is that the choke was loose in the barrel and the shot charge hooked it.

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