SOLD OUT: TYPE 81 LMG Shipment 3.

Vewdu said:
Nope, just someone that isn't happy with paying almost 2k after shipping and taxes and getting something that makes an SKS look like a finely built machine. Norinco quality is hit and miss, some are good, some are sh!t. Maybe I just got the latter, but I'm not gambling more money to find out. VZ58s and CZ 858s were going for the same price before the ban, there is a very, very, very big difference in quality and one is built in a country with employees that actually cost a fair bit to employ and utilizes CNC. If this was 1k like the first wave of type 81 rifles, I wouldn't be as bitter about it.
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Yep, the grass was greener in the past before the ban.. Not anymore, this is the new reality. I'm pretty sure you can sell yours for the same money you paid in no time. Then you can use it and buy a good Swiss quality rifle that is perfectly crafted for just about 5k after tax :)
 
Vewdu said:
About $600 too much for the abysmal quality of these things. Machining rougher and sloppier than a drunk first year apprentice just figuring out how a mill works. Very obviously old stock materials that have been rusting, being painted and prettied up. Absolutely zero effort to deburr any machined surface and sloppy tolerances to boot. Using endmills chewed to hell and dull as a dollar store butter knife. I have seen some sloppy SKS' out there, but nothing like this. It's cool, but is no where near worth what they are asking for these things. Most of the parts were made in the 20th century left to rot in a warehouse or they chose to use the cheapest materials they could find with minimal effort to clean them up.

An expensive lesson learned.
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wow sounds like you got a POS for sure, why not post a pic so we can see how bad it is
 
tanghuang12 said:
The gun does not worth the TI's MSRP, but they are the ones who set the price, so you don't really have choices. During the early 90s, the cost of manufacture a single type81 is around $120 USD. For now, possible $300 USD per rifle?
TI charges you $29 for a sling, if you buy a sling in China, the cost of a single sling is around 90 cents to $1.29.
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Oh sweet where do we get $300 T81's and $1 non-airsoft slings?
 
Vewdu said:
Nope, just someone that isn't happy with paying almost 2k after shipping and taxes and getting something that makes an SKS look like a finely built machine. Norinco quality is hit and miss, some are good, some are sh!t. Maybe I just got the latter, but I'm not gambling more money to find out. VZ58s and CZ 858s were going for the same price before the ban, there is a very, very, very big difference in quality and one is built in a country with employees that actually cost a fair bit to employ and utilizes CNC. If this was 1k like the first wave of type 81 rifles, I wouldn't be as bitter about it.
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Retail is 1499, this is going price for RPK where legal in other parts of the world.

858 in the safe at home, great gun but with chipboard stock and grey painted receiver it's not exactly the bastion of quality to compare to, LMG looks much nicer imo
 
Tactical Imports said:
Retail is 1499, this is going price for RPK where legal in other parts of the world.

858 in the safe at home, great gun but with chipboard stock and grey painted receiver it's not exactly the bastion of quality to compare to, LMG looks much nicer imo
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do not say so the 858 fan hord will go after you ... but i do agree and i never kept any cz vz ...the painting and wood stock were a no no for me ... now let s hope we can change the stock on the lmg ...
 
It wasn’t long ago where the cz858 could be had for well under a grand
Just before the ban they were priced close to the t-81 lmg
I didn’t care much for the grey painted metal myself but I did like the beaver barf wood for some reason
 
Deathrawt said:
It wasn’t long ago where the cz858 could be had for well under a grand
Just before the ban they were priced close to the t-81 lmg
I didn’t care much for the grey painted metal myself but I did like the beaver barf wood for some reason
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It wasn't until the CSA guns started coming out that they went that high. I had bought half a dozen at different times for under $700 "new". I wouldn't say the LMG is worth $1500 but I won't cry about the price either. If someone doesn't like it or can't afford it then they should simply not buy one.
 
Let's also not forget that the success of projects means that more doors and opportunities can open to us. We have to prove to factories we are a serious market if we want any sort dedicated projects (which we are asking for). There is a ton of really cool stuff we could get in theory, the likes our market has never seen.

If there's one thing to learn from our near 10 years in business, it's that we are always pushing hard to bring in cool and interesting stuff to our market
 
Tactical Imports said:
Let's also not forget that the success of projects means that more doors and opportunities can open to us. We have to prove to factories we are a serious market if we want any sort dedicated projects (which we are asking for). There is a ton of really cool stuff we could get in theory, the likes our market has never seen.

If there's one thing to learn from our near 10 years in business, it's that we are always pushing hard to bring in cool and interesting stuff to our market
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Keep bringing it in and we will keep buying them. You know everyone is waiting for more fixed stock and folders. Sounds like you guys are working on that and more.
 
Tactical Imports said:
Let's also not forget that the success of projects means that more doors and opportunities can open to us. We have to prove to factories we are a serious market if we want any sort dedicated projects (which we are asking for). There is a ton of really cool stuff we could get in theory, the likes our market has never seen.

If there's one thing to learn from our near 10 years in business, it's that we are always pushing hard to bring in cool and interesting stuff to our market
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Yup and I won't ever miss out on any of that cool stuff again. I should have bought a Lynx when I had the chance. I'm stuck kicking myself for not going through with it. Buy what you want while you can folks!
 
firebat said:
Yep, the grass was greener in the past before the ban.. Not anymore, this is the new reality. I'm pretty sure you can sell yours for the same money you paid in no time. Then you can use it and buy a good Swiss quality rifle that is perfectly crafted for just about 5k after tax :)
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Well said, I have t81 LMG and APC223 love them both.
 
Deathrawt said:
It wasn’t long ago where the cz858 could be had for well under a grand
Just before the ban they were priced close to the t-81 lmg
I didn’t care much for the grey painted metal myself but I did like the beaver barf wood for some reason
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I don't know what market your talking about. The CSA 858 has always been a steady 1499. I looked for mine for months right after the last administration lifted the ban on them and nowhere had them cheaper. I always had my eye on them even after I bought my 7.62 version because I was mulling over grabbing a 5 56 version too. Im kicking myself for not having done so. Even worse is I sold my 7.62 version before the ban. Got the same as I paid for it - tax. Buddy bought it off me used for 1500 and he was happy to do so.
 
firearms_enthusiast-1987 said:
I don't know what market your talking about. The CSA 858 has always been a steady 1499. I looked for mine for months right after the last administration lifted the ban on them and nowhere had them cheaper. I always had my eye on them even after I bought my 7.62 version because I was mulling over grabbing a 5 56 version too. Im kicking myself for not having done so. Even worse is I sold my 7.62 version before the ban. Got the same as I paid for it - tax. Buddy bought it off me used for 1500 and he was happy to do so.
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Back in, I think, 2012, I got 4 CZ 858s, with 4 mags and mag pouch each for $799 retail.
 
StansfieldMcElroy said:
Back in, I think, 2012, I got 4 CZ 858s, with 4 mags and mag pouch each for $799 retail.
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He said CSA, which were significantly more expensive than the surplus refurbs we got initially. They were out for a long while well under $1499 though. I don't actually recall ever seeing a reputable dealer selling them for that much.
 
Tactical Imports said:
Let's also not forget that the success of projects means that more doors and opportunities can open to us. We have to prove to factories we are a serious market if we want any sort dedicated projects (which we are asking for). There is a ton of really cool stuff we could get in theory, the likes our market has never seen.

If there's one thing to learn from our near 10 years in business, it's that we are always pushing hard to bring in cool and interesting stuff to our market
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do not forget that you will always get cry babies but your customers are buying and that is the most important.
 
VZ 58 vs Type 81SA manufacturing is going to be very different. The CSA VZ 58 are completely milled from cast, have more complicated parts, way higher tolerances and machining standards, and a Wolther Barrel.

The Type 81SA just has a few milled parts, some apparently from cast, and a whole bunch of riveted together, stamped and hardened steel.

If a stamped steel gun cost the same or more then a milled gun to manufacture..... the Commies wouldve stuck with a milled gun.
 
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