Soliciting opinions on a new firearm

owlowl said:
Hm, how about Sako Carbonlite then (2.4 kg) that would be $4k
And aimpoint micro 130 g (4,6 oz) like $900
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This,
I was looking at one of these in .260 Rem not to long ago. Very nice rifle with a (to me) perfect balance and weight, and then thee is the feel of that bolt throw.... so buttery smooth. I just could not bring my self to spend that much on a rife. Some day when the funds allow I will be getting myself a Sako Carbonlite
 
You could look at a Cooper M52 Excalibur in .270 Win... about $2800 and add the scope of your choice...
 
You don't like the .270, but a Browning BAR in that caliber is what you are describing. Personally, I like red dots for the thick bush, and a nice scope for anywhere I can see past 100 yards. You can get it in a 25-06, which is arguably better than .270. Although you will need to be more certain of your shots on the bigger class game.
 
For the money you're talking and the range of game as well, I'd take the obvious route and build a 6.5-300 Wby on a long 700 trued action with a fluted 26" barrel and a Brown Precision glass stock........or buy a Wby ultra lite or what ever they call it and then put a Leup 2.5-8 or 3.5-10 on it and you can kill anything at any distance that you want with 140 gn Parts including being very effective with a well placed shot on an elk. This is undoubtably the most flat shooting and powerful cartridge and caliber under a 270, oh and I share your hatred for the 270 caliber as well. Another thing no one ever seems to mention is that high velocity, flat shooting cartridges have no downside at 15 mtrs either, they kill very effectively from 5 mtrs to as far as you can see, or reasonably shoot.
Scope magnification is really irrelevant if your rifle fits you, the object of your affection and cross hairs will come up perfectly every time with a good fitting rifle. I shot literally thousands of jack rabbits on the prairies east of Calgary as a kid with my 243 and I don't think my 3-9 was ever set below 9 power. My rifle fit and shooting running jacks was never a problem right from 20 mtrs out to over 400 mtrs. A good many coyotes bought the biscuit as well and I was never hampered by scope magnification. Believe me rifle fit and balance is everything........If you throw your scoped rifle to your shoulder with your eyes closed in a comfortable offhand shooting position and open your eyes and your scope isn't clear and centered and your crosshairs immediately in the center of your view of what ever you are seeing through the scope.......change something until this happens, or you'll never be able to snap shoot with your scope and rifle. I have shot game at as close as 5 feet with my rifle scope on 8 power just a couple years ago......with both eyes open.
There are some very good scopes with wide range variables if you like a very low power and you can still have the magnification on the upper end for that 400 mtr elk shot.........with your 6.5-300 Weatherby
And you can just forget the barrel burner haters, by the time you shoot the barrel off this rifle you will have killed hundreds of game animals and you can just go buy another one 20 or 30 years down the road. Range shooters worry about barrel life, hunters don't !!!
 
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The 6.5-300 Weatherby does look interesting
6.5-300 Weatherby is crazy fast Laser-beam point blank range is incredible
 
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c-fbmi said:
I'd take the obvious route and build a 6.5-300 Wby on a long 700 trued action with a fluted 26" barrel and a Brown Precision glass stock...
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If you are going that route, make it a .270-300 WBY... might as well use the math in your favour.
 
who are you hunting elk with out west?

most outfitters will advise a 300 cal minimum, most are fairly lenient after they evaluate your skills when you confirm your sight in, some are firm and will insist you use one of their guns if you don't own a 300....if you're doing hunter host then you're good either way

I shoot a 260 and love it, certainly confident out to 300, but for planning what sounds like a once in a lifetime hunt, I'd probably want a bit more punch...270wsm for my money if you still need to stay legal back home

hard to bear your original choice of finnlight and swaro, maybe squeeze in a macmillan stock, the finnlight tuperware leaves a bit to be desired at for a rifle at that price point imo
 
hoytcanon said:
If you are going that route, make it a .270-300 WBY... might as well use the math in your favour.
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But Hoyt.......what if you leave your wildcat ammo at home, or run out............:d:d:d. Haven't you heard that one should never travel to hunt, with a wildcat..........:p:p It's been said on here at least 50 times, haven't you learned anything from Gate and others who tell us how stupid this is...........Just flirting with disaster.........I have never had an issue in the 20 or so times I have done it, but it's coming for sure, the odds are against me.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh ya, I almost forgot......who'd want to neck a beautiful case like the 300 Wby to .277 anyway.........what an abomination.......Even Weatherby couldn't be bothered, you notice they went 6.5..........
 
7.62mm said:
Budget $4500-$5000...Rifle and scope combined.

Weight of Rifle and scope has to be under 7 lbs.

Parameters: looking for a one gun does all type of hunting gun. I live in SW Ontario, so it has to be under .275 caliber. Looking to varmint hunt (read coyote), to Deer, Bear and Moose. Also in the next year or two want to do an Elk hunt in Alberta or BC. My deer hunts usually have shots less than 100 yards, and thick bush, which is the majority of which this firearm will be used for, but would like to shoot comfortably out to 300 yards. I also can roll my own ammo.

Base line for what I am looking at is a Sako Finnlight in .260 cal, topped with a 1-6 Swarovski. I have some kind of affinity for 6.5 caliber for some reason that I can't really explain, and also an unfounded hate for .270 cals...I will be selling a number of firearms to help fund this purchase

Would like to get some opinions from the CGN knowledge base, to see if the are some better/different caliber/rifle/scope options that I should be looking at.

Thanks for your time and well reasoned opinions in advance.
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That's going to leave you with a less than ideal caliber and one that is too small for the big stuff and too big for the small stuff.

Buy a rifle you can use for deer/coyote and another for elk/moose/bear.
 
I am another southern Ontario guy and I went with a Win 70 Exteme Weather 270wsm with a Vortex Viper 2.5-10 on top of it. Might be heavier then you are looking for but it works for all the reasons you have stated.
 
c-fbmi said:
But Hoyt.......what if you leave your wildcat ammo at home, or run out............:d:d:d. Haven't you heard that one should never travel to hunt, with a wildcat..........:p:p It's been said on here at least 50 times, haven't you learned anything from Gate and others who tell us how stupid this is...........Just flirting with disaster.........I have never had an issue in the 20 or so times I have done it, but it's coming for sure, the odds are against me.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh ya, I almost forgot......who'd want to neck a beautiful case like the 300 Wby to .277 anyway.........what an abomination.......Even Weatherby couldn't be bothered, you notice they went 6.5..........
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1. I hear the argument, but in four decades I have never forgotten or lost my ammo... I suppose it does happen, but I would never plan a rifle around that contingency.

2. I would normally agree with you on anything .277", (even though I just purchased a KM77-R 270 Win), but in Southern Ontario with the caliber restriction and the OP's insistence on a single rifle for coyotes to elk, a .270 makes a lot of sense.
 
hoytcanon said:
1. I hear the argument, but in four decades I have never forgotten or lost my ammo... I suppose it does happen, but I would never plan a rifle around that contingency.

2. I would normally agree with you on anything .277", (even though I just purchased a KM77-R 270 Win), but in Southern Ontario with the caliber restriction and the OP's insistence on a single rifle for coyotes to elk, a .270 makes a lot of sense.
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I prefer the two rifle option as I posted earlier....... and tailored my response to the OP's "demands".... but other than that, I whole heartedly agree....

If I was in his one rifle shoes, the .270 is really the only realistic option...
 
Superbrad said:
I prefer the two rifle option as I posted earlier....... and tailored my response to the OP's "demands".... but other than that, I whole heartedly agree....

If I was in his one rifle shoes, the .270 is really the only realistic option...
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I'm with you... with that budget, two very nice rifles could be purchased to cover the intended quarry much better. A 243 and 30/06 or .300 WM would be a good two rifle set.
 
The .260 will work great for your Ontario gun.

But if you are travelling from Ontario to Alberta or BC for an elk hunt, choosing "a cheap .30-30" for the task sounds like an afterthought...a poor one, at that. Why not substitute "an inexpensive .30-06" instead?

Is "adequate" an absolute requirement here, with "well-suited" being totally out of the question?
 
7.62mm said:
Well, looks like I am getting 2 rifles....I am morally opposed to 270 as a caliber.
I'll get a cheap 30-30 for the Elk, and use the .260 for everything else!
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Buddy... you would be better off just using the .260 for both.

Are you really considering buying a "cheap 30/30" for a once in a lifetime elk hunt??? That represents very bad economy in my mind.

Are you under the impression that all .30 caliber cartridges are roughly equivalent?
 
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7.62mm said:
Well, looks like I am getting 2 rifles....I am morally opposed to 270 as a caliber.
I'll get a cheap 30-30 for the Elk, and use the .260 for everything else!
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30-30 will do it if you are a hunter, but you are way ahead with any chambering with the .264 caliber, my opinion.
 
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