Solve my Savage curiosity.
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Fail to see where I said hunting rifles are a fashion accessory, please enlighten me.... There are things that count to me that Savage doesn't have.... fit, finish, etc.... They have their place in the market for sure.... they are cheap accurate rifles (although I would never add a barrel etc).... but thats just me...
So you shot a few nice groups with a Savage with a precision barrel, I just fail to see your point....
The original question was why a savage over other entry level rifles? The model 10-16 savages can get a person more performance per dollar than any other rifle period. You will not produce consistent results like I've shown with a Ruger american or Tikka T3 lite for the same investment.
I have Browning, Winchester, Kimber rifles, so I know and like other rifles. I just love the response I get when I post about Savages.
I have Browning, Winchester, Kimber rifles, so I know and like other rifles. I just love the response I get when I post about Savages.
How many coopers do you own?
It isn't anti savage.... but, I can post a group almost as good from a handi rifle..... shot form 100 yards in the prone off of my backpack.....
Handi rifles are great. Hard to put an aftermarket barrel on though, and have nothing to do with the thread.
Easy to put any barrel on... In fact, they can exchange their own in some cases with minimal fitting.... and you can shoot multiple cals in some cases from the same rifle...
Great that your savages shoot good... Again, no doubt that they can shoot..... most do....
I guess I just dont feel they are great candidates for a build, and not a fan of the action / fit and finish....
we are in the hunting and sporting arms forum, so yes, they will take game, group well, be cheap etc..... so they have their place....
I have a model 16 fcss in 260. I guess that's their fully finished stainless offering.. stainless bottom metal and magazine, accustock (which IMO has an excellent design locking the action to the stock). I've got nicer rifles but if I was forced to take this one in the back country for a week I wouldn't feel too hard done by. Well the calibre's a little light, but you get my drift.
I suppose it does come down to the almighty dollar. Beyond personal preferences where you were to consider the cost of some rifles you may have the ability (and I have achieved so) to have 3 Savages for the price of an off the shelf remington, Winchester or all brands vying for the average hunter willing to pay these days. Yes, all brands have their better than's worse than's perceptions of superiority, perceptions of refinement, perceptions of puffy chestness. However I have yet to come across a rifle that does not go bang. The real big deal is savage found a way earlier than most to pay the cost forward to us in the field. And all have followed in their "cheap" standard versions coming out these days.
So If you do not mind having one rifle adorn your hunting cabinet. By all means and consider an old saying...worry more about the man with one rifle then many...he may know how to use it
But if you have ever had the hankerin for say a range plinker, yote rifle, deer rifle, moose rifle, monster griz rifle, rifles for the kids then remember 3 for 1. I propose all of this will rub against a shiny high priced piece of precision artwork in you hand. Does it really matter as long as it goes bang when you want it to?
My savages go bang and the bullet goes where I want them to. And I get to play smith with all of them without the cost of paying for one. One gets scratched then count it like a notch in the grip, no worries. As we have firmly moved into the recycling era you can replace or upgrade parts easily with the savages. Perhaps more so than any other platform and at a fraction of the cost. Examples such as barrel can be had for $80 shipped for a rifle that can manage at least MOA come to mind.
3 for 1 folks.....My 2c.
So If you do not mind having one rifle adorn your hunting cabinet. By all means and consider an old saying...worry more about the man with one rifle then many...he may know how to use it
But if you have ever had the hankerin for say a range plinker, yote rifle, deer rifle, moose rifle, monster griz rifle, rifles for the kids then remember 3 for 1. I propose all of this will rub against a shiny high priced piece of precision artwork in you hand. Does it really matter as long as it goes bang when you want it to?
My savages go bang and the bullet goes where I want them to. And I get to play smith with all of them without the cost of paying for one. One gets scratched then count it like a notch in the grip, no worries. As we have firmly moved into the recycling era you can replace or upgrade parts easily with the savages. Perhaps more so than any other platform and at a fraction of the cost. Examples such as barrel can be had for $80 shipped for a rifle that can manage at least MOA come to mind.
3 for 1 folks.....My 2c.
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none I don't like them
Edit: Oh wait you are infering I am too poor to own a cooper, sorry not true I have just never seen a cooper I like. I have owned a few Sako's if that assuages your elitism. I just like Savages
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How many have you tried? (Coopers don't feel right to me either FYI).....
Shouldered? A couple there arent that many around and gun shop owners are a little tired of the general public dinging them up. How many have I fired? None, but being 6'6" most rifles feel the same to me, I make myself suit them instead of finding a gun that suits me
By the way I have and have had lots of guns, remmingtoms brownings, thompsons, sakos, tikkas, winchesters, CZs, marlins and savages.
I appreciate Savages but then I have always been a function over form kind of guy, give me a Savage that shoots sub moa all day over a cooper that shoots minute of barn door anyday
I couldn't agree with you more...... But I lack confidence in the function.... Long term.... Savage will never convince me of that ..... What shoots MOA day one will never impress me if the action is sloppy and the fit and finish is poor..... Because I know it will not shoot MOA down the road..... Because cutting corners in one area on your high end rifles likely means you did it elsewhere....
They are great for what they are....
the fact that you call the action sloppy tells me you know nothing about savages, the bolt is not meant to be "tight" until it is locked up because you know what? It doesn't matter how tight the bolt slides back and forth but how true the bolt face locks up to the chamber and that is the real secret to savages, that and the ability to manufacture economic barrels that are true
CreamySmooth
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I normally hunt with a Blaser R93 in .308 or .257 and it's got a lot of character marks.
But lately I've been using a Savage LWH in 6.5-284 and it's taken 2 elk and a moose, it's super light, the stock is classic American and I think its quite good looking. Both my kids first rifles rifles will be this rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor. It's also a tack driver, and to me, a far nicer rifle and action than a Mod 700.
But lately I've been using a Savage LWH in 6.5-284 and it's taken 2 elk and a moose, it's super light, the stock is classic American and I think its quite good looking. Both my kids first rifles rifles will be this rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor. It's also a tack driver, and to me, a far nicer rifle and action than a Mod 700.
Lets get this straight, you really believe that savage rifles will lose accuracy over time because they have a sloppy bolt! Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Where did I say that?.... Listen dude, I am only responsible for what I say and not for what you choose to understand.....
I don't like bolt actions with sloppy actions.... A smooth precise rack of an action that feels like it's on ball bearings makes me smile..... A sloppy push feed bolt action, not so much.....
