Some Anshutz 64 questions (UPDATE - recently shot provincials)

It is just this, in the classification system on our firearms, we have a grading system as to condition. Poor, good, fair............nib. Since our op seems newish to this his grading system is off. Others who are new to the sport and who see this may take a different view to the condition of a firearm they may want to buy or sell. They may not have anyone around at the time to point out the difference in condition.
Yes the op may be making some modifications to his rifle that others like. It has nothing to do with the original description, when the pictures do not show that.
The op seems to think the talk about description of a firearn is b.s. he needs to do some reading on the site here about many who have bought rifles and handguns ect. that where described as being in one condition when they were not.
Now the op will more than likely come back a with sarcastic remark that changes nothing to help anyone.
Done here.
 
God I'm glad you're done.

First off, if you look back, you'd find that I called the gun 'pretty mint' before I realized that the stock was lightened. I'm brand new to target shooting. I didn't know it was a modded match rifle. I'd still say the overall OUTER condition is near mint. The grip area is fine now that I BLO'd it...it was just dry.

(See...you had to make me bust out the caps lock...didn't you.) :p


Second, who cares what I call it. If this were a WTS sell ad on the EE, I'd see your point.

In any event, it's all good. I like the rifle and you'll get to see more target pics soon to see if I improved the rifle or 'buggered' it.

Thanks for taking us all on this pointless tangent...
 
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Personally, I'd be extraordinarily pissed off if I bought a rifle that had been as messed with as that stock has been.

Lightening a stock is one thing, but that's an extremely crude and amateurish job by the looks of it. That should have been disclosed before you bought it and the rifle discounted accordingly...IMO.

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In any case, enjoy the rifle and I'm sure it will be a great shooter once you work out the wrinkles with it.

Coincidentally I just picked up a 1970 Model 1407 (54 action) that should be delivered in the next few days. Can't wait! :)
 
Personally, I'd be extraordinarily pissed off if I bought a rifle that had been as messed with as that stock has been.

Lightening a stock is one thing, but that's an extremely crude and amateurish job by the looks of it. That should have been disclosed before you bought it and the rifle discounted accordingly...IMO.

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In any case, enjoy the rifle and I'm sure it will be a great shooter once you work out the wrinkles with it.

Coincidentally I just picked up a 1970 Model 1407 (54 action) that should be delivered in the next few days. Can't wait! :)

I understand how you feel. Normally I would be cranky too, but I got it at a reasonable price even in the condition it is, and besides, I enjoy tinkering. I am making it my own; my first custom job. :)

Yes, the lightening of the stock is a bit crude, but it's invisible when it's assembled and I'm sure the rifle will still shoot better than I can.

PS: would you consider posting a pic of your new rifle? I haven't seen many 54's.
 
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AdrianM
For your future reference with bedding jobs - you may want to remove all components(bolt,trigger mech. etc.) so you have the receiver only. Eliminates a lot of the clean-up afterwards. The milled out areas in the receiver can be filled with putty,plasticene or play-doh to eliminate the flow of the bedding compound into those areas.
Layers of tape can be used on the barrel near the forend to locate barreled action in the stock and provide the desired clearance.
For the 64 actions in particular an area at the back of the action should be bedded to create a recoil abuttment as the action does not have a recoil lug. Some may disagree with this as a rimfire doesn't recoil greatly -but if not done all the recoil is taken up with the action screws and the friction with the bedding. Potential future problems.
As a release agent grease will create voids in the bedding and you are looking to achieve a smooth glove-like fit. Try shoe polish or floor wax ; 2-3 coats and buffed off after each coat. Make sure all surfaces are coated that may be contacted by the bedding compound.
Good luck with your next bedding job !
 
Sheesh!! A guy is pumped about his new acquisition, and the nit-pickers are all over him like flies on dung!
If he is happy, why rain on his parade??
He is also learning some important things along the way.
Adrian, enjoy that Annie. It will probably surprise you once you get it all ready to go, and feed it some decent ammo.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
AdrianM
For your future reference with bedding jobs - you may want to remove all components(bolt,trigger mech. etc.) so you have the receiver only. Eliminates a lot of the clean-up afterwards. The milled out areas in the receiver can be filled with putty,plasticene or play-doh to eliminate the flow of the bedding compound into those areas.
Layers of tape can be used on the barrel near the forend to locate barreled action in the stock and provide the desired clearance.
For the 64 actions in particular an area at the back of the action should be bedded to create a recoil abuttment as the action does not have a recoil lug. Some may disagree with this as a rimfire doesn't recoil greatly -but if not done all the recoil is taken up with the action screws and the friction with the bedding. Potential future problems.
As a release agent grease will create voids in the bedding and you are looking to achieve a smooth glove-like fit. Try shoe polish or floor wax ; 2-3 coats and buffed off after each coat. Make sure all surfaces are coated that may be contacted by the bedding compound.
Good luck with your next bedding job !

Thanks for the great tips dryfire! I will most definitely pay heed to your advice the next time around. As I said, this was my first time bedding anything, so I have much to learn. Hopefully my bed job isn't too shabby.

Also thanks to Eagleeye. Some other people should read your post and act accordingly.
 
About five years ago I was helping to clean out the club armoury by emptying the gun safe and carrying out some TLC on our half a dozen club .22s.

Right at the back of the safe was a very sad-looking Anschutz Model 1407 with a thumbhole stock and heavy barrel. The stock was shedding varnish like a moulting dog, badly dinged from having the safe door closed on it a few times, the alloy butt hook unit was badly corroded and the rear sight was missing.

The worst thing by far was the even coating of dusty red rust on every exposed metal surface - it looked like a mist of rust-coloured paint had been evenly sprayed all over it.....

Nevertheless, I put it in the stocks and began a thorough clean-up, starting with the action torque screw, which I reset as per instructions on the club's Anschutz torque wrench. I pushed the crud of ages out of the barrel, and then looked at the shooting log. To my amazement it had last been shot by a guy back in May 1993 - thirteen years before the date I was looking at on the wall. I was intrigued by the old gun, and borrowing a back sight from another Anschutz, took it on the range so see how it shot. To my amazement, it put ten shots of Lapua SK through a single hole at 25m.

To end the story, I ended up buying from the club for $50, redoing all the wood, and here's the good bit - ALL that surface rust came off, revealing the pure quality of the original finish. I used a Birchwood-Casey lead removing cloth - VERY carefully - and it took me three weeks of evenings, but it came up like new. At first I put one of my big ol' Tasco Supertarget scopes on it, and then, bit the bullet and won a Weaver T-36 BR scope on Gunbroker, put THAT on it, and a spiffy muzzle harmoniser, and I shoot it most every week, just for fun. Not a serious shooter, me.

The quality of an Anschutz anything will be there long after the high intitial cost has been forgotten.

...Pics, if anybody is interested, if you PM me.

Best

tac in eastern yUK
 
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Got a treat in the mail today

This little bipod came in the mail today. I got it from a great CGN'er. I believe he makes them. It was cheap and well built; a no brainer. Thanks Gairlochian!

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It's obviously just to rest the gun on while not shooting. I saw some of the guys at my club had them and I thought it was a super idea.

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She's all ready for another test session. I was hoping today but it's raining. I'll have pics of some targets after the weekend.

-A.
 
About five years ago I was helping to clean out the club armoury by emptying the gun safe and carrying out some TLC on our half a dozen club .22s.

Right at the back of the safe was a very sad-looking Anschutz Model 1407 with a thumbhole stock and heavy barrel. The stock was shedding varnish like a moulting dog, badly dinged from having the safe door closed on it a few times, the alloy butt hook unit was badly corroded and the rear sight was missing.

The worst thing by far was the even coating of dusty red rust on every exposed metal surface - it looked like a mist of rust-coloured paint had been evenly sprayed all over it.....

Nevertheless, I put it in the stocks and began a thorough clean-up, starting with the action torque screw, which I reset as per instructions on the club's Anschutz torque wrench. I pushed the crud of ages out of the barrel, and then looked at the shooting log. To my amazement it had last been shot by a guy back in May 1993 - thirteen years before the date I was looking at on the wall. I was intrigued by the old gun, and borrowing a back sight from another Anschutz, took it on the range so see how it shot. To my amazement, it put ten shots of Lapua SK through a single hole at 25m.

To end the story, I ended up buying from the club for $50, redoing all the wood, and here's the good bit - ALL that surface rust came off, revealing the pure quality of the original finish. I used a Birchwood-Casey lead removing cloth - VERY carefully - and it took me three weeks of evenings, but it came up like new. At first I put one of my big ol' Tasco Supertarget scopes on it, and then, bit the bullet and won a Weaver T-36 BR scope on Gunbroker, put THAT on it, and a spiffy muzzle harmoniser, and I shoot it most every week, just for fun. Not a serious shooter, me.

The quality of an Anschutz anything will be there long after the high intitial cost has been forgotten.

...Pics, if anybody is interested, if you PM me.

Best

tac in eastern yUK

Tac sent me these images of the "rescued" rifle described above. Heck of a restoration I'd say. :)

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