Some M14 Questions

Wally

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Hey,
Just been screwin' around with the M14. field striped it and had a look at what makes it tick. I've had it for a few months and still haven't had it out :redface:

Anyway, for starters, I'm just wondering if anyone has one of these?
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$40 from these guys http://www.cdnninvestments.com/m14bipgicopn.html

I was thinking that a Bi-pod would make for a great first addition.

Secondly, how does all the stuff in the cleaning kit work? There is that crazy uni-directional brush unit and then there is the flared part with all the holes in it on the dissasembaly tool.....

Does anyone actually use the cleaning rods that come with the Nork rifles? They seem a little rough to me and being steel as opposed to aluminium I get the feeling it's not a good idea to stuff um down the bbl.

Cheers,
Wally
 
One should never, I repeat NEVER use Alumininum cleaning rods of any kind!!!!
The idiot that invented them should be shot with a ball of his own frozen poop.
Aluminum rods leave little bits of soft metal in your bore that will become impacted into the barrel every time you fire a round. Eventually this will completely destroy a barrel. It is too soft a material for using as a cleaning rod as it flexes far to much. The rod that came with your rifle is perfectly suitable as the crome lining is harder than the steel in the rod although I prefer one piece rods over sectional ones. The most important thing to remember is not to push the rod through the barrel from the muzzle end, always pull it through the barrel from the breach end.
The nifty tool in your kit is a gas plug wrench, a cleaning rod handle, a rear sight adjustment tool and a carbon removal tool.
The bi-pod you have pictured is OK for combat but it mounts on the gas system which is mounted on the barrel, bad idea if you actually want to hit what you are aiming at!!

Scott
 
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Where would one find said manual?

Hey, thanks for the replies. Interesting. I'll stay away from those Aluminium cleaning rods.

.... I was always told that you pull from the muzzle and always run your brush in the same direction the bullet goes.... Otherwise your comment kinda confused me....

What would you recomend for a Bipod then?
 
m39a2 said:
The most important thing to remember is not to push the rod through the barrel from the muzzle end, always pull it through the barrel from the breach end.
The nifty tool in your kit is a gas plug wrench, a cleaning rod handle, a rear sight adjustment tool and a carbon removal tool.
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:redface: Ooops, the advice I got was it was ok to push the brush from muzzle towards breech... even though it was counter to everything I learned before.

First time cleaning, and I used a nylon bore brush. Hope I didn't do too much damage. :(

I figured out the multi tool functions except carbon removal tool. Is this for the gas system or are you referring to the chamber brush?
 
On the combination tool/cleaning rod handle examine the blunt end (not the flared end).

That blunt end has a little screw driver blade for adjusting your sights.

That blunt end can be used for a bolt disassembly tool where the screw driver blade inserts to lift up the extractor, resulting is lost ejector plunger and spring. IF you have to disassemble your Norinco bolt, do this all under a towel on the counter top. The towel / rag will catch the flying parts.

Warning: Re-assembling a Norinco bolt is a royal pain. Only take the bolt apart if you truly must. USGI bolts are not as bad to work with. The Norinco springs are way too strong.

The flared end of the combo tool stores the chamber brush. That's all...

Of course the blunt end has a gas plug removal tool which I use frequently during the cleaning process. As part of my mental management procedure in NRA High Power matches, I kept one combination tool in my shooting jacket pocket. At the start of EVERY match or string, I would just crank down on the gas cylinder plug, so that I would not have any nasty surprises on the firing line. :)

Cheers,
Barney
 
that bipod is a copy of usgi bipod and next to totally useless - far better to mount a stud to the stock and mount a harris or similar bipod to it- the one shown mounts to the gas block and shifts barrel point of aim when firing prone-it's a copy of the ill-fated atempt to make the m14 into an light machine gun, unless you WANT to make it up that way, in case you'll need a special stock and compensator
 
Two more really simple questions about cleaning/maintenance. Once I've removed the gas plug and gas piston, I've read that I can use "gas system cleaning drill" is this basically a large drill bit rotated by hand?

I tried using a small toothbrush/patches to gently clean out residue, is that not sufficient?

Second, cleaning the barrel. I'm basically using the same procedure/materials as I do with my hunting rifle. Steel rod with patches wet with Kleenbore Formula 3, followed by nylon brush (breech to muzzle :redface: ), then patches until clean. However I've read that powder/copper solvent is normally used. Any reason why the 3 in 1 solvent isn't sufficient enough for the M-14.

On another note, I shot mine for the first time last weekend, after spending the winter working on the USGI stock. Worked like a charm- shot Chinese, SAfrican, Canadian milsurp and some Remington factory without any problems. I pretty much learned to shoot with the FNC1, and bought the M-14 as it is the closest thing to the C1 that I could get. I'll start (or look for)another thread with my thoughts on the M-14 and how it compares to the FNC1... :cool:
 
i've never seen as gas assembly so heavily carboned that you need a drill to clean it- but it must happen that's why those tools are out there- all i've ever used is a phosphor bronze brush of the appropriate diameter- i can see the gas port in the barrel going that route,but not the piston assembly unless the proper maintance wasn't done for eons- as for cleaning the barrel, i use a dewey one piece and lots of hoppes 9- the m14 vs c1 thing has been discussed at length on this board already
 
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the blunt end of the combo tool can also be used to push the cartridges out of the stripper clip into the mag provided you have the little deal that fits over the end of the mag to hold the stripper clip
 
What about Break Cleaner to clean the gas system? That stuff will clean anything and leaves next to nothing behind.

I think you would have to put ALOT of rounds through the M14 between cleanings to get to the point where you need a drill to get the carbon out of the gas system.

Thanks for the info. Definitely NOT going for the LMG thing, just want a nice bipod for shootin' off the bench. I was thinkin' about gettin' a new stock but the one that's on there is actually suprisingly comfortable. Not a huge fan of that soft Chew wood so if I HAVE to I'll probably go to a boyd's wallnut or something.

Cheers,
Wally
 
if you do change the stock , make sure you do the mods stickied in the main battle rifles section, espically the mod for the pin or popscile mod as it's known
 
I have a friend who has a couple usgi bipods just like the one you pictured. They look really neat, but weigh a ton and clamp right on the gas system as stated, oh, and they rattle.........:runaway:
 
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