Some Marine Units Going Back to 45s

Having owned 1911s, I fail to see the logic in using a 1911 for a modern military firearm. Sure, they're great shooters, but they'll never be as reliable as a plastic gun. Not to mention, they wear our so fast!

Nostolgia won out big on these.

politics. There are many more reliable and durable designs that are less expensive but a lot of contracts are awarded due to politics and campaign contributions.
 
USMC choice

The USMC doesn't do things on a whim. The 1911 has proven itself time and again in both combat and on the target range.

'Pray & Spray' with a high cap 9mm just don't work in the real world unless you're a Trawna 'gang banger'.
 
The USMC doesn't do things on a whim. The 1911 has proven itself time and again in both combat and on the target range.

'Pray & Spray' with a high cap 9mm just don't work in the real world unless you're a Trawna 'gang banger'.

I know. Those Austrians don't know sh!t about guns. Sloppy, lazy, inbred backwoods bumpkins.;)

The Americans pick whatever gun meets their rigorous standards, and will reschedule the test as many times as is neccessary, to see that the gun they want to win the contract, finally does. It costs big money, to get those contracts, but only the strong companies with big bank accounts survive. That's progress and freedom at work.
 
Having owned 1911s, I fail to see the logic in using a 1911 for a modern military firearm. Sure, they're great shooters, but they'll never be as reliable as a plastic gun. Not to mention, they wear our so fast!

Nostolgia won out big on these.

must have with a major part breakage after 12k rounds ... but they do look nice.
 
Consider that one of the requirements for the test was that the guns submitted must be compatible with their existing stock of 7 round .45acp magazines, and another was that it have a grip safety.

It's not as if these guns competed against non-1911 options in .45. The solicitiation was for a 1911, even if they didn't actually specify a 1911 in the request.

The selection of the pistol type was done, therefore, not on the basis of performance. It was because they wanted to keep using 1911s for nostalgic reasons.

I love 1911s but nostalgia is a stupid reason to pick a fighting gun.
 
The argument of 9mm being a pea shooter and a .45 being a show stopper doesn't mean much to me.

I'd be more fearful of the guy whose gun's blueing is worn off and his holster is really broken in from continuous training than the dude with the biggest gun.
 
The service awarded a $22.5 million contract to Colt Defense for its M1911A1 Rail Guns. The deal was finalized Wednesday night, according to Barb Hamby, a spokeswoman for Marine Corps Systems Command in Quantico, Va. Precise details are expected to be released Thursday evening, but there is widespread speculation the order will total some 4,000 firearms.

That is $5600 each. For that they could have "Top end" Open guns. :p:p:p
 
Guns 11, 12, 14 and 15 (1-10 were not fire tested) fired 12,000 rounds before being deadlined due to visible safety-critical cracks found in the slides. Each slide had cracks in the same location, but they varied in size.

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http://soldiersystems.net/2012/07/20/marsoc-winning-colt-guns/

12 000 round before critical failure is absolutely abysmal. There are so many modern designs that could completely embarass the reliability and durability of these Colts. If you're going to be using a 100 year old design that many people consider outmoded, you damn well better be picking one that actually works.

This whole thing stinks of having some desk jockey that just wants to wear a new .45 behind it, rather than actual legitimate concern for the well-being of troops.

I forsee this coming back to bite the USMC in the ass.
 
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