Some new stuff from NCSTAR

Hhutch said:
I think if you pull apart most "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada" articles, you will quickly realize that even the most patriotic of vendors(read Harley Davidson, etc) are merely assembled in the declared country from mostly offshore parts. For the skeptics, google "value added method for determining country of origin." I will abridge it because it's very, very dry. A product is valued by a predetermined percentage of value. For this example lets say we decide that 51% value added determines where the product was made. We have $12 in chicom parts, assembled in a union shop in Milwaukee and it takes 1.5 hours to assemble at a shop rate of $45/hour. That product can be made of 100% chicom materials and still be declared "Made in the USA" because it took $60 in labour to assemble, placing the production value at $72, of which only $12 or roughly 12.6% of the value added was off shore. Similarily, you can take a fully assembled chicom product bought in bulk a $5/unit, put it in a $3 package, and charge $3 in labour to handle and package it and you have a 100% chicom product, packaged and labeled as "Made in the USA" Keeping this in mind, don't be shocked if you discover that some of your favourite north american made products have nothing american in them at all.
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Thank you for a great explanation!
 
El_Monty457 said:
OK, being a complete noob on the subject of lasers, for the Green Laser & 4 Color NAV LED, can anybody chime in and enlighten me/us on what exactly the 4-colour NAV lights are for, and how that works, in 3000 words or less? ;-D
And also on the ECO scope, it only has 2-colour NAV lights, are those for the same purpose?
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Like navigation in the dark lights, different colours to help your eyes in the dark, not as bright as white light, 4 choices
 
If your standing on the starboard side of the PT-boat you should be using the green light and red is for port side.... :)
 
Can anyone place a photo of the ecos scopes mounted on a flat top type97? Not having seen one of these scopes in person, I have a really hard time in purchasing something I have never seen mounted. Cheers!

~ Tom
 
vince514 said:
NcStar products are really interesting..

Can anyone confirm they really can hold zero on a .308 ?
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I read online a review where the author stated he put 500 rounds of .308 through a rifle with the laser/nav light unit on it. Said it never lost zero...
I ordered one Thursday... hasn't shipped yet, but I will post my experience once it arrives..
 
Received my ECO, Nice unit didn't try it yet.

The only bad thing about it is that the elevation turret is hard to have acces once it's mounted. Quick tip if you intend to shoot at many distance and want to use the dial to adjust elevation on the go put a smal line of liquid paper on the dial at every 100M once you have it zeroed!
 
Spotagwan said:
Like navigation in the dark lights, different colours to help your eyes in the dark, not as bright as white light, 4 choices
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Got it. Thanks for the info. This adds to and clarifies an earlier explanation from another gent. Thanks all.


Can-down said:
If your standing on the starboard side of the PT-boat you should be using the green light and red is for port side.... :)
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Arrrgh, just the thing fer navigatin' in yer camo rubber assault dinghy, or DUKW. Yar. Now I wants one says I.
Har-har, har-dee, har-har.
Cheers matey.
 
johntwo said:
Yes, the NCS-DDAB can be mounted on top of the ECO scope and the LAM unit

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found here: https://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=75779
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Guys I just received this and the echo model thank you. The red dot however is NOT the correct unit for the echo as it has a permanent picatinny attachment on it and cannot be mounted direct to the slot for the red dot as you cannot remove the rail section. I know NC star has a unit without the rail attachment that mounts direct to the slot for the red dot, but I thought this had both based on your comments that it fit
 
kaos013 said:
Guys I just received this and the echo model thank you. The red dot however is NOT the correct unit for the echo as it has a permanent picatinny attachment on it and cannot be mounted direct to the slot for the red dot as you cannot remove the rail section. I know NC star has a unit without the rail attachment that mounts direct to the slot for the red dot, but I thought this had both based on your comments that it fit
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take the reflex sight off of its picatinny clamp mount...
 
DeRK said:
take the reflex sight off of its picatinny clamp mount...
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it does not remove thats my point its a one pc unit, the on off switch is even on bottom half in back no way to remove it from the rail attachment part.
 
kaos013 said:
Guys I just received this and the echo model thank you. The red dot however is NOT the correct unit for the echo as it has a permanent picatinny attachment on it and cannot be mounted direct to the slot for the red dot as you cannot remove the rail section. I know NC star has a unit without the rail attachment that mounts direct to the slot for the red dot, but I thought this had both based on your comments that it fit
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You are correct sir

Its the NCS-DGAB that fits the ECO scope

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https://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=75780

sorry for the mix-up
 
Hhutch said:
I think if you pull apart most "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada" articles, you will quickly realize that even the most patriotic of vendors(read Harley Davidson, etc) are merely assembled in the declared country from mostly offshore parts. For the skeptics, google "value added method for determining country of origin." I will abridge it because it's very, very dry. A product is valued by a predetermined percentage of value. For this example lets say we decide that 51% value added determines where the product was made. We have $12 in chicom parts, assembled in a union shop in Milwaukee and it takes 1.5 hours to assemble at a shop rate of $45/hour. That product can be made of 100% chicom materials and still be declared "Made in the USA" because it took $60 in labour to assemble, placing the production value at $72, of which only $12 or roughly 12.6% of the value added was off shore. Similarily, you can take a fully assembled chicom product bought in bulk a $5/unit, put it in a $3 package, and charge $3 in labour to handle and package it and you have a 100% chicom product, packaged and labeled as "Made in the USA" Keeping this in mind, don't be shocked if you discover that some of your favourite north american made products have nothing american in them at all.
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You must be a blast at parties!
 
I Pmed Johntwo about the issue since I have the wrong red dot too.

I am confident that Marstar will fix it. They have the iron clad waranty. I will call afther lunch if I don't hear anny thing on CGN.
 
If anyone purchased the DDAB red dot for the ECO scope please give us a call, we can make arrangements to have it send back and send you the correct one.

Again sorry for the mix-up
 
Just received my VISM L2 Laser/Nav. light unit. The unit is all metal and Looks/feels very solid! Nice bright and crisp green laser. The QD mount locks up very nicely as well. Looking forward to seeing how it does after a healthy amount of rounds through it!
 
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Tommycanada said:
Just received my VISM L2 Laser/Nav. light unit. The unit is all metal and Looks/feels very solid! Nice bright and crisp green laser. The QD mount locks up very nicely as well. Looking forward to seeing how it does after a healthy amount of rounds through it!


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I don't like the mount seems way too high they could have done a better job with a lower pro mount this one looks terrible
 
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