Some Savage/Stevens .223 related questions

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Hey all! I'm thinking about buying a Savage 111fcns and I have a few questions.

1) What is involved in changing the barrel? Would I need any special equipment or just a strap wrench and a bench mounted vice? Just tighten until I can't tighten no more? :runaway:

2) If replacing the barrel, what are the pro's and con's of going with a 1:7 twist versus a 1:8 twist. Either rifling can stabalize an 80gr bullet can it not? Does too fast of a twist cause problems with the lighter bullets or something?

3) Does anybody know for sure if and when there will be a centerfeed detachable mag Steven's rifle? As the action will eventually be the only factory part I keep, I'd prefer to save money by starting with a Steven's, but I don't want to wait around forever for the detach mag version to come out.

4) If I installed a Rifle Basix trigger, can the trigger pull weight be adjusted with the action still in the stock? (ie: crank low for target shooting, crank higher for gopher hunting)

5) What Canadian vendors should I be contacting for precision stocks and barrels for Savage rifles? Are there any US suppliers that are willing and able to ship precision Savage barrels to Canada?

Thanks!
 
you can get any stock you want really they're are several buisnesses that import stocks from the us so getting the stock isn't a preoblem it's finding one you want they're is a decent variety out they're from full metal to custem fiberglass even carbon fiber stocks comming in at just 2 lbs and cap[able of supporting the weight of a pickup truck
 
not sure on the factory detach mag option but if it makes it to the stevens line it will be a few years yet i think. but vbull precision was producing a detach mag conversion for the savage/stevens action not sure where in the process they are but there is a link for them at the top of the page.
talk to alberta tactical rifle, or robertson composite stocks for a precision stock.
they are both dealers here and Rick at ATR is a great guy to deal with can get most if not all precision stocks oput of the US and Ian at Robertson composite stocks is anpother great guy to deal with met him breifly once out at cannought and have seen his work on one of straightshooters baby's and it is superb.

as for triggers and barrels well my stevens 200 still sports the factory trigger it works good for me and the barrel is a pcnor custom i had installed by jason at gunco so i couldnt tell you the mechanics on it LOL.
as for the stevens 200 line and the .223 mysticplayer is one of if not the gru's here in that re4spect and i am sure he will be along shortly t ogive his wisdom * which is in fact quite usefull*
 
To change a barrel, you need a specific wrench for the barrel nut - $50ish. Then just clamp the barrel and knock off the nut. Spin on the new pipe, headspace and tighten up the barrel nut. All it does is act like a jam nut.

You don't need to go heman on the barrel nut. Just tight enough to not loosen.

I shoot a 7 twist pac nor and it is working great. I have also shot 9 twist Stevens with worked superbly with the 75gr Amax. I am sure an 8 twist will work just was well for both 80 and 75gr bullets. flip a coin.

If you want to shoot 90's then a 7 twist is a must. I am not going to bother.

Eventually, ALL Stevens will be center feed too as they are just made from the Savage overruns. My guess is that the Stevens in 223 now are new gen but might still retain the staggered fixed mag. You just need to check the action screw spacing.

If you are interested in a center feed mag/floorplate set up, PM me. I have one for sale. The odds of a Stevens having the det mag is zero. It will only be with the Savage lineup.

The RB trigger weight can be adjusted slightly through the trigger guard - likes a few ounces to a lb. Otherwise, you need to change to lever pins for a wider range of weights. No big deal.

For stocks and barrels, there are vendors on the site and lots of barrel makers in Canada that do superb work.

Jerry
 
Thanks guys. The next time I go to Calgary with the wife and kids, I'll stop in at Alberta Tactical Rifle to fondle some stocks and ask about Savage barrel options.

In case anybody is interested, I found this link that discusses switch barrel Savages: www.switchbarrel.com/Savage%20FAQ.htm
The requirement to buy speciality tools like a barrel wrench, action vice, and a set of GO/No-GO gauges definately changed my plans of replacing the barrel myself. I'll just pay someone like ATR to do it and set it up right for as often as I'm going to be changing out the barrel.
 
the barrel nut wrench is cheap and an action vise can be made from a couple of blocks of wood with a channel cut in them and stuck i na regular vise, as for the head space gauges again they are cheap and hand yto have.
 
Check sharpshootersupply.com for the tools, and their trigger is a huge improvement over stock. Some will call me a blasphemer but I like it better than an Accutrigger.
 
The $41 barrel wrench and $8 pre-made hardwood vice inserts has got me thinking about trying to swap my own barrel again. :D Now where does one find good quality Go/No-Go gauges?
 
Incorrect. I use a FL sized case to headspace my barrels all the time. This way I get a 'custom' set up that works with my dies.

All you are doing is turning the barrel until it touches the case. You aren't torquing it in any manner.

Jerry
 
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