Some shots do not hit paper.

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I loaded 3 different 22-250 loads to test in my brothers savage model 10 predator semi-heavy barrel. 52 gr bthp, federal 210 primers, 31, 33, 35 gr charges of IMR 4895 from once fired rem brass. He shoots 3 shots looked down the spotting skope and only two hit paper. chambers another round and it is bang on grouping the three that hit anywhere between .6 and .9 moa at 100 for the different loads. this happened with all three loads. I shot the same loads (both mine and his loads made in the same sitting) out of my tikka the other day as i am just starting to reload and did not have this problem with my best group .54 and worst group .75. As i am new to loading i was very cautious. each shell has a coal between 2.348 and 2.352 and every powder charge was bang on. each brass was also measured and in the tolerance. Any Ideas.
 
I am no expect at reloading, but it sounds a lot like my first experience. I have always gotten my factory ammo under 1", but the first time I reloaded 55 gr Vmax's with H380, I was all over the place, like 10-12" groups.

I ended up switching powders and bullets and getting it much more accurate. Maybe his gun doesn't agree with the loads, is the twist rate much different?
 
Put a 4'x4' backer behind target then you will see were the flier is going,then you will know.
 
CROWCA said:
Put a 4'x4' backer behind target then you will see were the flier is going,then you will know.
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+1, I always take big sheets and cover the entire target backer, just in case of the occasional flyer, or if I forgot to change my scope over between different loads, distances, etc. I get 2'x 3' sheets for free, use the back that doesn't have any writing on it. Holes show up very well, especially when I can use white sheets. It's odd that 3 rounds group very well, and one flyer is nowhere to be seen, never heard of that. A smaller flyer could be something as simple as shooting a second or third round too soon, but that wouldn't explain being right off the paper.
 
You have to work up the load for each rifle, not just pick 3 and hope. One shot at a target will tell you little about how a rifle groups or about flyers. Get the OAL all the same too.
 
Are the bullets suitable for the velocity you are shooting them at? There are 22 bullets made for 22 Hornet up to 223 velocities that can come apart at 22-250 velocities and they won't make it to the target. I shoot 50gr Speer TNT's in my 223 and the have an advised maximum velocity on the box.
 
sunray said:
You have to work up the load for each rifle, not just pick 3 and hope. One shot at a target will tell you little about how a rifle groups or about flyers. Get the OAL all the same too.
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Thats what we did. If my gun or my brothers did not shoot well i would have tried different powders and what not. I Gave him 9 of each load so he could shoot a few groups of each and decide what was better and fine tune from there. He started out by shooting three of each and ended up shooting 4 because one was a flyer. But the three that hit grouped very well. And that is about as good as the OAL will get. i do not intend to adjust the seating die every shell. I am a Millwright and make my living measuring things and plus minus 2 thou is minimal for how shi**y the class of fit is on my rcbs dies seater threads. If i measured your loads with my starrett 2"-3" mic i bet i would also find a variance. As far as i know i am doing everything correct. I do not think it is the gun or it would not group the ones that hit the paper so well.
 
Silverback said:
Are the bullets suitable for the velocity you are shooting them at? There are 22 bullets made for 22 Hornet up to 223 velocities that can come apart at 22-250 velocities and they won't make it to the target. I shoot 50gr Speer TNT's in my 223 and the have an advised maximum velocity on the box.
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They are sierra 52gr bthp matchkings and on their web site they give the ballistics coefficient at .230 above 3000 fps which leads me to believe they are but i could be wrong. They look to be stable at 100 judging by the nice round holes in the paper.
 
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