Somebody Help Me!!!!!

TheGreatOutdoorsMan

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Alright, here it is.

I have a norc M-14 done right up with all the goodies. I just baught a S.A. scope mount and tried 4 sets of rings. S.A. rings, Millet, Weaver and someother cheapies and they all gice the same results. I mounted my S,A, scope mount by the book and it seated just fine. at 25 yards i am hitting about 6-8 inches low but consisted. pretty much hole threw hole. i tried shimming the bases of the mounts to try and compensate for the triangulation. after taking the mount off i noticed that on the groove (up and down) on the mount that seats on the receiver it is marked tightly on the 1 side and the other is not even touched, thus giving me the auful offset. can i shave the mount to fit or do i have to modify the receiver to adappt the mount propperly. I am ready to scream and scrap the whole f*#$in gun. Somebody please help me!!!
 
Well before you scrap the Rinco project send it to me Please!
Toss the scope mount in the trash and use the iron sights or bite the bullet and buy a decent base. Trust me I've been through this once for all the different mounts I've tried I should have bought a good one right off the bat and I would be money ahead.
 
WTF are you trying to say?

rings bad?

mount bad?

firearm bad?

My best decoding of your gibberish is...

you have good groups, but they are low..?
you tried to shim the scope... still no luck ?

you removed the mount and noticed the mount had been 'set' to your rifle
leaving uneven lines on it... which you don't like?

4 different types of rings have given you the same 'bad' results as you are grouping low still....?

The groups are "pretty much hole threw hole"?

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In order....

Adjust your scope...
Stop shooting at 25 yards...

BEFORE YOU " have a norc M-14 done right up with all the goodies " learn the basics of marksmanship and ballistics!

Your rifle is fine - it is you that need to be
Head-Space-N-Timed
 
Wow, somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed :rolleyes:

G.O.M.
Lots of guys have had trouble with the cheaper scope mounts, usually throwing rounds all over though, doesn't sound like your prob. My mnt was out of sync with reciever as well (or perhaps vica-versa?) and I got away with dremeling the mount to fit the reciever (pls do not dremel the reciever to fit the mnt ;) )
What kind of scope are you using? Perhaps there is not enough elevation adjustment (again, due to cheaper mnt), I had the same type of experience with a cheap scope - swapped to a Leupold and was able to make enough adjustment.
 
You get what you pay for.

We've all been there, trying to justify the cost of a better mount, then go "screw it a mounts a mount I'll get the cheaper one how much worse can it be right?". You mount it, shoot it, can't hit #### with it, fiddle with it, grind it, tighten it, curse it, and eventually give up with it.

Then you get a "real" mount (ARMS, Smith), with "real" rings (ARMS, Badger, and all the other "expensive" ones) and everything is fine and good in the world. It really is that simple.

I got a ARMS with quick release rings. On and off with the scope repeatedly with hardly noticeable change in zero. The way it should be.

Do yourself a favour and save up for the proper stuff, you won't regret it.
 
Have you tried it at 100 yds?I remember sighting my AR a couple inche's low to be right on at 250 meter's. Look it up in a TM or an F.M.
Perhap's it's printing where it should and you haven't taken the trajectory into compensation.
 
I use a S.A mount (3rd Gen), and it works great. I cheated. After I use a brass hammer to seat it down hard, I used adhesive to keep the screws in place.

It's been a few years and hundreds (thousands?) of rounds. Not everybody needs an ARMS mount.
 
Yah at 100 yards i have to aim about 3 feet bove the target just to put it on the board. So i will try grinding the mount to fit the receiver better first, as per recomendations in this feedback here and hope it works. I wish i could put some pics up here to show you guys what i'm talking about about the bat seating of the mount on the receiver. And i have a bushnell 3200 7X21X40mm.
Thank you all for the feed back and i will let you's know soon as to the results of grinding the mount and i guess we can take it from there...

Thanx
 
TheGreatOutdoorsMan said:
Yah at 100 yards i have to aim about 3 feet bove the target just to put it on the board. So i will try grinding the mount to fit the receiver better first, as per recomendations in this feedback here and hope it works. I wish i could put some pics up here to show you guys what i'm talking about about the bat seating of the mount on the receiver. And i have a bushnell 3200 7X21X40mm.
Thank you all for the feed back and i will let you's know soon as to the results of grinding the mount and i guess we can take it from there...

Thanx
Click to expand...

Go gently on the "grinding" :eek: , you don't want to take too much material off - a file maybe better depending on how much has to come off.
 
You could try Burris Z rings with inserts

I got a set for my rifle so that I could shoot out to 1000 yards. With the .2 inserts they will give you 40 minutes extra elevation which if you are shooting only three feet low at 100 yards will give a little to spare.
 
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Thamok said:
WTF are you trying to say?

rings bad?

mount bad?

firearm bad?

My best decoding of your gibberish is...

you have good groups, but they are low..?
you tried to shim the scope... still no luck ?

you removed the mount and noticed the mount had been 'set' to your rifle
leaving uneven lines on it... which you don't like?

4 different types of rings have given you the same 'bad' results as you are grouping low still....?

The groups are "pretty much hole threw hole"?

-----------------------------------------------------------------
In order....

Adjust your scope...
Stop shooting at 25 yards...

BEFORE YOU " have a norc M-14 done right up with all the goodies " learn the basics of marksmanship and ballistics!

Your rifle is fine - it is you that need to be
Head-Space-N-Timed
Click to expand...

TROLLING HUH
 
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