Something I have noticed over the years...

A guy that can glass well is going to find more animals with a pair of cheap binos than the unskilled guy with the Swaros- But when that skilled guy gets his hands on the Swaros, he will be that much better.
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And if you are glassing for sheep,the guy using the cheap binos will have plenty of eyestrain and will likely not see some sheep as a result.

Of course the equipment vs skill issue depends greatly on what you hunt.If you only hunt deer,almost anyone can go out and kill a legal deer in a day even if he is not overly skilled.I usually introduce new people to hunting by taking them on a hunt for antlerless mule deer,because it is so easy to be successful.So easy in fact,that I certainly wouldn't brag about killing one every year with a single shot. Then again if you are holding out for a huge buck,it takes much more patience and skill to be consistently successful.
If you hunt goats,sheep or pronghorn,quality optics can be a huge factor as far as your success.You also want good boots for any mountain hunting,as blistered feet will take all of the fun out of a hunt in short order.Shots on pronghorn can also be much longer than is typical with other game,so a scope and a rangefinder can be an advantage.
Hunting for me is not all about whether or not I kill an animal or what particular gear that I choose to take with me.It is whether I enjoy the experience of hunting regardless of what animals that I bring home or which gear I choose.I have been on hunts where I turned down many legal animals,and returned home with unfilled tags,but I still enjoyed the experience.
Lastly,I enjoy hunting far too much to be concerned with(or jealous of) what gear another hunt might own or use.If he enjoys the hunt,and hunts legally and with respect for the game he hunts,I am happy for him.
 
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I gotta say I agree with Stubblejumper, especially this part:


stubblejumper said:
Lastly,I enjoy hunting far too much to be concerned with(or jealous of) what gear another hunt might own or use.If he enjoys the hunt,and hunts legally and with respect for the game he hunts,I am happy for him.
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I don't look up or down at person due to his gear, but if asked , I;ll tell him what I think is good and what is not. And much of the topics here are people asking about what is good or not.;)
 
Natural ability...


Professional golfer Greg Norman began playing at something like 15 years old and was a scratch golfer within a year, which is nothing but freakin' amazing! :eek:



FWIW, I will bet that Republic of Alberta can outshoot any man on this site, both for speed and accuracy.

Some guys "have it" and he does. :sniper:
 
Demonical said:
Natural ability...


Professional golfer Greg Norman began playing at something like 15 years old and was a scratch golfer within a year, which is nothing but freakin' amazing! :eek:



FWIW, I will bet that Republic of Alberta can outshoot any man on this site, both for speed and accuracy.

Some guys "have it" and he does. :sniper:
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That's a pretty bold statement, seeing's how you do not KNOW everyone on this site!:)
I don't mean this as a rude statement, just a statement of fact.:popCorn:
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You cannot buy talent or ability and it's no replacement for practice. You can however with top quality gear get the very last ounce out of the talent and ability you have.
 
Gatehouse said:
a pair of binos from 1942, then get out and go for it, but if you can afford better gear, there is no harm using it.
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My Binos are from WW2. :redface:
No2 CDN MK2/5
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Good enough to hunt Nazis in WW2, and later used by a Canadian Col during the Cold war to keep tabs on commies, then methinks good enough for hunting. :p

Self focusing, handy built in range finder, prob' even strong enough to survive being used to beat a bear to death in self defence. :D
 
I use a set of Beck /Kassels from austria.
My father brought them back from Germany in '66 .
They are fairly compact, 7X35's , likely a very high dollar set in their time.
They still work great!
Cat
 
Gatehouse said:
So, your brother is a "natural" shot because he can hit a target offhand at 100 yards, and has killed 9 deer with 9 shots at close range?


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His on game performance is up to par or better than others I have hunted with that have more experience..... and who said close range???
 
Demonical said:
Natural ability...


Professional golfer Greg Norman began playing at something like 15 years old and was a scratch golfer within a year, which is nothing but freakin' amazing! :eek:



FWIW, I will bet that Republic of Alberta can outshoot any man on this site, both for speed and accuracy.

Some guys "have it" and he does. :sniper:
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ALL RIGHT! that is enough!!!! let's not start sucking each other off:redface:
 
Republic of Alberta said:
I am sorry that you cannot belive that someone can make simple shots on game
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thats right, I dont believe you that your brother, with basically zero shooting/firearm experience, can shoot 10 shots "all right in the money" offhand from 100 yards.

Im sure he can run a two minute mile, fly a jumbo jet, and if you bought him some figure skates, could win the olympics

gotta love the bull#### sometimes, sure is entertaining :popCorn::owned:
 
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His on game performance is up to par or better than others I have hunted with that have more experience..... and who said close range???
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Well, you said that he shot at 100 offhand, a few shots, and was good to go, and you said that 8 of the 9 deer he shot was offhand, so I suppose I was assuming that he was shooting these deer at close range, under 250yards.

If he is making offhand shots on deer that are over 300 yards away wiht no practice, I' d be prettyimpressed. We have a 350 yard gong we often shoot offhand at, and even the very talented shooters don't hit it 100%.
 
I love that when ever bino's are discussed people assume that EVERONE hunts sheep in the mountains.
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I never assumed that you hunt sheep in the mountains.In fact,for some reason ,I assumed that you don't.However those of us that do hunt sheep are well aware of just how much more important good optics can be for sheep hunting than for other types of hunting.
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Some people are just natural rifle shots and need no practice, my little brother is an example of this. He dosn't realy hunt, owns no guns at all and never has. He grew up shooting a pelet rifle in the back 40 at gophers I guess but that is it.


The last 3 seasons I have taken him out hunting. We go down to the range or out to the bush and shoot at a coffee can at 50 yards then a paper target at 100, all off hand. Mabey 6 to 10 shots, all right on the money. Then we go out. In the last 3 seasons he has shot 9 deer with 9 shots. All but one shot was off hand.

I have hunted with guys that I thought were good rifle shots and not seen them shoot as well as my brother. These guys practice but I guess you cannot polish a turd.


The #1 reason that opportunitys are lost is due to the guy not being ready and taking to long as well as making poor decisions moments before the shot. I have seen guys with all the latest "bing" take a full minute to shoot a brodside deer at 40 yards! A natural shot gameshot like my brother can have the rifle up and shoot in less than 3 seconds and make the shoot too. A very high sucess rate when I hunt with him compared to some 20 year "vetrans" that never seem to be able to put the game down when the time comes.

You cannot buy that at the store.
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It is as dangerious to generalise from the particular as it is to particurlise from the general.:rolleyes:
 
I paced 162 yards off hand was the longest off hand shot. Fairly good I would say. I have watched people miss at less than 100 yards time and time agian with thier expensive rig and carfuly made handloads.


Anyways the point is that not everyone needs to go down to the gun range 2x a week to practice. And doing so will not automaticly mean you are going to put game on the ground. Just as getting the "best stuff" won't automaticly put game on the ground.

Just look at that skunk thread. I am sure that guy is at the range with his glock and "gear" all the time. Obvously not making him a hunter.
 
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