Ok i was out to the range with my .303 #4 mark1 barrel is mint for land and grooves 5 twist. for sights i have a parker hale t.z. 4\47 rear appiture. i was shooting 50 yards with 180 grain win and 180 ammo that the nfld rangers use and 95 % of the shots didnt even hit paper and the few that did was way low or way high or had to do about 25 yards we tried adjusting the elevation in small incermints and nothing helped bring it in. i spoke to my sister's bf and he said i should go down to 150 grain and should hit paper at lower grains. i never heard of that prob, but is it possible that could be the anwser to this prob.
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- Thread starter leadhead36
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seeing as how the .303's were designed to use a 174gr bullet, I don't see how dropping to a lighter bullet is going to help you here. I have never personally had an Enfield shoot poorly like this. It is hard to tell without actually being able to look over the rifle myself.
Could you even get it to group on paper (how big was the target)? If you can't even get it to group at 25 - 50m that is a big problem. More than just ammo.
I hope you can get the problem resolved quickly and cheaply. Good luck.
- Mac
Could you even get it to group on paper (how big was the target)? If you can't even get it to group at 25 - 50m that is a big problem. More than just ammo.
I hope you can get the problem resolved quickly and cheaply. Good luck.
- Mac
I would say you need a larger target backer to see how low the shots are going. You may be able to adjust the rear sight to get on target but you may also need more than a couple clicks up in the rear. Forget about what the scale on the sight read, crank them up until you hit the target, even if they read 500 yards.
Sounds like your front sight blade may be too tall.
Use a large target, so you can see exactly where the shots are going.
If there are clear, defined groups, just adjust the sights.
If there are not defined groups, you will have to determine why.
If the rifle is just plain shooting wildly, and if the bore is not bulged, etc, check the front trigger guard screw, etc, for looseness.
For what you are observing it is very unlikely that the ammunition is the issue. The only possible advantage to using issue ball is that the sight calibrations might have some degree of relevance at longer ranges. The current Ranger issue ammunition is quite decent.
If there are clear, defined groups, just adjust the sights.
If there are not defined groups, you will have to determine why.
If the rifle is just plain shooting wildly, and if the bore is not bulged, etc, check the front trigger guard screw, etc, for looseness.
For what you are observing it is very unlikely that the ammunition is the issue. The only possible advantage to using issue ball is that the sight calibrations might have some degree of relevance at longer ranges. The current Ranger issue ammunition is quite decent.
the next time we go out we are takeing some bristol board so that the back drop is covered and put the target up on that and work away but i am gonna try a lighter load and see what happens. the gun itself is tight. i am also thinking that the front sight might sit alittle high possibly. but it just gives me a reason to go to the gun range more and have fun.... lol thats my story dear and im sticking to it....hahaha. hopefully an easy fix
thx.
thx.
Hi. 180's have been used for moose, everywhere in Canada, for eons. It's not the bullet weight. The shots are likely going over the target.
PH aperture target sights are adjustable. Lower the rear sights until it's on paper.
Are shooting off a solid bench rest?
PH aperture target sights are adjustable. Lower the rear sights until it's on paper.
Are shooting off a solid bench rest?
Guess I need to read the whole thread, didn't catch the part about the PH rear sight. Forget about the front post being too high, you need to crank the rear sight up a whole bunch to get on target. At 25 yards you should be hitting point of aim.
thx everyone i also did some search online and i found out that the plate on the elevation was able to move by loosening the screw and set it down so that it was set to true zero i hope gonna try that and see if i can get groupings set that way .
leadhead, I have seen this ammo shoot well in competition in these rifles and most bullets should shoot reasonably well.
You are on ther right track and we look forward to seeing how it groups when zeroed.
Regards,
Peter
You are on ther right track and we look forward to seeing how it groups when zeroed.
Regards,
Peter
