Soo my Type 97 just blew up on me

cr5 said:
Unfounded fear of nothing? Is this the first T-97 that's blown up? Ask N Silvia how many rifles they've sold and how many have had issues to get a real idea of the failure rate. Saying that all brands and types of rifles out there have had a kaboom at one point means nothing if you're comparing a rifle that has tens of thousands sold versus a rifle that has only sold one thousand and has already had a few failures. It's been posted numerous times that the feed ramps are not cut properly which causes the bullet tip to jam and push into the cartridge which could cause increased pressures and potentially another destroyed rifle and injury. A strong crimp is a band-aid not a solution and suggesting that people modify the feed ramps is saying that the rifle comes unfinished from the manufacturer and requires repair to increase safety. I reload for my AR's and other semi auto rifles and I can load with no crimp and the bullet still glides right up the ramps. I crimp anyway but that's how a properly designed and built rifle should function.
Everyone who owns a T-97 should rethink their philosophy on their firearms purchases, is saving some money worth your safety? Willing to bet an eye on it? All the little pieces that hit Colin in the face could have easily gone other places, he was lucky to catch it all in the chin, a little different angle of his head to the rifle and some of those pieces could have been in his eye.
I'm not a big fan of the Tavor but I used to own one and I've handled and fired a T97 and the Tavor is so much better than the Norc that it's like comparing a Corvette to a horse drawn buggy. Just because your T97 hasn't blown up in your face doesn't mean it won't and just because you only run factory ammo doesn't mean you're safe. Why would anyone risk their safety just to save some money? If you want a bullpup buy a Tavor, at least you'll be getting a properly designed and tested rifle that is engineered to protect the shooter in case of a kaboom. You're going to say that the Tavor is $3000 and the T-97 is under $1000, you can buy three for the price of one. Yup and I would still buy a Tavor every time. Ask yourself, is your vision worth a couple thousand dollars to you?
The people who have had failures with this rifle so far have been lucky, just remember that luck always runs out eventually.




If they ever do sell parts it would most likely be from breaking down a couple new rifles and parting them out. I doubt that Norinco would bother with the hassle of exporting parts for these rifles. Would it be worth the trouble for a barrel that cost them $5 to make? Or a $2 bolt?
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I agree with what this fine gentleman said.
Nothing against China. My iPhone is Chinese. However, iPhones don't contain 50,000+ psi of hot gas and metal.
 
cr5 said:
The T-97 is the same as the T-95 in the same way an AR-15 is the same as an M-16. They came from on rifle and each was made for a different market. The difference is that the rifle that gets all the R&D and engineering is the T-95, the T-97 is the bastard child of the T-95 and was simply converted to a different caliber for the civilian market and given a different trigger pack in a lower receiver that won't accept the T-95 trigger. They didn't even bother putting in the M-4 feed ramps that they obviously know how to cut since they make M-4geries.
Even if the Chinese military did have some kabooms, do you actually think they would tell the world about it?

Any of you who say you would trust your life to it.
I'm taking that to mean you would trust it's reliability in a WROL situation where you were actually fighting for your life and potentially protecting the lives of your family. Would you still grab you T-97 as you run out the door if there was a Tavor, or a quality US or German built semi automatic like an AR or an HK?
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You're still wrong the Original Type 97 is a MILITARY 5.56 assault rifle purpose made in burst/full auto for military/police/security export, while the Type 97NSR is the civilian version made for Canada with a different trigger pack from the full-auto type 97. Please do your research before you attempt to sound smart.

Secondly as ShawnC6 said, I also have trained and practiced with my type 97, and don't have any of the issues either. So if a SHTF scenario happens, you bet I would grab my type 97. Your point about of there was a tavor or AR in the house is kind of moot in that I don't own nor intend to own either of those rifles anytime soon, because a) a tavor is way to expensive on a starving college student's budget and b) I don't really like the idea of a restricted rifle because I can't pack it innawoods camping and whatnot.
 
SquidMeister said:
You're still wrong the Original Type 97 is a MILITARY 5.56 assault rifle purpose made in burst/full auto for military/police/security export, while the Type 97NSR is the civilian version made for Canada with a different trigger pack from the full-auto type 97. Please do your research before you attempt to sound smart.

Secondly as ShawnC6 said, I also have trained and practiced with my type 97, and don't have any of the issues either. So if a SHTF scenario happens, you bet I would grab my type 97. Your point about of there was a tavor or AR in the house is kind of moot in that I don't own nor intend to own either of those rifles anytime soon, because a) a tavor is way to expensive on a starving college student's budget and b) I don't really like the idea of a restricted rifle because I can't pack it innawoods camping and whatnot.
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To be precise, the original QBZ-95 was designed for 5.8×42, all the 97 variations came later.
 
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