sooo ... anyone know where i can get varget or what is equivalent to it?

silverfoxdj said:
Could the same be said for 223 ?
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There is a hockey sock full of good propellants for the .223 Rem and Varget is worth a try, especially with the heavier bullets. Again, people were punching itty-bitty groups with any and all of W748, BLC2, H335, H322, AA2230, IMR3031, and IMR 4895 to name a few before Varget showed up on the shelves. It all gets back to load development in a particular rifle. Buddy's pet .223 load might shoot like a champ in his rifle, but not necessarily in yours.

The shooting/gun business if full of marketing hype with this or that gunwriter pimping for brand Y or brand Z. Best to try for oneself. Funnily enough, the IMR series of powders, incl 3031, 4320, 4064 and 4895 were all developed some 80 yrs ago and still keep on ticking in the face of the modern "wonder powders". Same thing with the tried and true military rounds like the .30-06, 7x57, 8x57, and 6.5x55, all first fielded at least 110 yrs ago.
 
purple said:
There is a hockey sock full of good propellants for the .223 Rem and Varget is worth a try, especially with the heavier bullets. Again, people were punching itty-bitty groups with any and all of W748, BLC2, H335, H322, AA2230, IMR3031, and IMR 4895 to name a few before Varget showed up on the shelves. It all gets back to load development in a particular rifle. Buddy's pet .223 load might shoot like a champ in his rifle, but not necessarily in yours.

The shooting/gun business if full of marketing hype with this or that gunwriter pimping for brand Y or brand Z. Best to try for oneself. Funnily enough, the IMR series of powders, incl 3031, 4320, 4064 and 4895 were all developed some 80 yrs ago and still keep on ticking in the face of the modern "wonder powders". Same thing with the tried and true military rounds like the .30-06, 7x57, 8x57, and 6.5x55, all first fielded at least 110 yrs ago.
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Thanks.. Have been using Varget with great results but wished it would meter better..is why I asked..
 
BLC2 was developed specifically for the 308/7.62 cartridge and W-W 748 is nothing but a commercially numbered version of the same powder. One would think with the money available to the Military to develop a good propellent for their latest cartridge (1953 I believe) That it might be one of the best propellants out there for it. I personally use IMR 4064 with 150 gn bullets for good velocity and accuracy from a hunting rifle...........don't play the one hole game so I can't say which powder is best for that.
If you are absolutely stuck on Varget I know where there are 3 lbs for sale, PM me.
 
c-fbmi said:
BLC2 was developed specifically for the 308/7.62 cartridge and W-W 748 is nothing but a commercially numbered version of the same powder.
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Thanks, now I learned something today. :)

Here's me stash. :eek:

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For 155 and 168 wt bullets i like 8208 xbr (this is a faster small kernal powder)
you can use AR comp for 155 up to 185 without issues.

Thanks
Trevor
 
BLC2 had it'd genesis in a ball powder that Winchester-Western used to make a gazzilion rounds of .303 ball ammo on Brit contracts during WW2. The Brits were apparently quite satisfied with it. Hodgdon got it's first supplies of this powder from pulled down surplus .303 Brit rounds.
 
From Hodgdon's Burn Rate Chart:

#93-IMR-4064
#94-Norma 202
#95-AA-4064
#96-AA-2520
#97-Aliant R15
#98-VihtaVuori N140
#99-Varget
#100-IMR 4320
#101-Winchester 748
#102-BL-C(2)
#103-CFE 223

From fastest to slowest burning rate
 
I use in my savage model 110S silouette
H322, with bullets 150gr and lighter
Accuracy is outstanding and recoil is nil

The guys that remember back in the day , 322 was
A favoured Bench rest powder,
I find that 308 is versatile in its a iLife to shoot with just
About any powder that is used in medium capacity cases

I do use H335, BLC-2, H322, H4895, reloader 7, AA2230C
Iver used 3031, 4198,
I've honestly never used varget in 308, always stuck
With traditional powders,
Also if you can get your hands on some IMR4320
It was the powder alot of manufactures used to make the
308 ammo, imperial /dominion used it, also Winchester
Back in the day, but Winchester switched to 748
In their ammo in the late 1980's
Also this I've found helps in 308, if you use any " ball" powders
I use magnum Lars rifle primers to get a gd hot ignition
For consistent velocities and accuracy, I have several
Load books from the 1960's, the data is great
Be happy to share if u need info
 
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