Source for 7.62X54R Brass/Dies/Bullets/Rounds?

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Hello Gents,

I am looking for where, or whome, I can purchase Brass, Dies, or even live rounds of ammunition for the 7.62X54R Russian caliber?

I live in Central-South Alberta, about 30 min away from Calgary

I am open to people offering too :)

Sincerely,
Drachenblut
 
I ended up buying 500 rounds of prvi 7.62x54r for two reasons....

1.) My mosin nagant likes it.
2.) The brass is good and reloadable.

I too am looking to find reloading material / equipment.
 
In Edmonton, Milarm and P&D sell this rounds in several makes with re-loadable brass. There are several options for dies, and several options for bullets if you feel your barrel is warn or a bit sloppy. I load mine in .312 and get better shooting in all my X54 caliber rifles.
 
Tradex Ex had dies, brass and bullets a while back. Check to see what's still available. Call Wolverine Supplies for surplus FMJ - I bought a crate of 880 rounds for $299 + tax and shipping.
 
I would use surplus ammo in an AVS-36,SVT-38/40,SKT-40 but not a Mosin.
My reasoning?
1) The SVT have the ability to damage your semi rare brass with their fluted chamber and flinging action. Your Mosin will do neither.(Provided you don't slam the action back)
2)Your Mosin does not have a chrome lined barrel and if you have a particularly good condition one why beat it up with steel jacketed corrosive ammo? Your SVT doesn't have a chrome lined barrel either but who cares, its an SVT.
3) Your Mosin is a rugged, precision bolt action rifle which can benefit from a top quality hand load. Your SVT is a frail press stamped bullet hose. ;p
 
Shooting corrosive ammo is no problem if you clean your rifle after shooting it. I'd be more concerned about clean the gas system on a SVT40 with corrosive ammo. Cleaning a M91 is pretty straight forward.

But the point of surplus is that its cheap so you can shoot a lot.
 
you can easily reload for the mosin. I use lee dies, a lee press, prvi brass and sierra or hornady bullets, I find charges between 37 and 44 grains work well behind 180 gr bullets powder is 4895. strangely using 303 british starting loads and going up has worked for all my mosins.
 
It doesn't matter what powder YOU want to use. What matters is the powder that the RIFLE wants to use.

My friend and I messed around with military rifles for about 20 years. This included several years of mucking about with Moisins. We found that the rifles ALWAYS shot best with a .312 slug and that most of them really like 4895 or 4064 powder.

Not surprising: du Pont built several powder mills in the USSR in the 1920s, so it makes sense that the rifles do well with that type of powder. The original plant for the 7.62x54R (originally called the `Three-line 1891g cartridge`) was built by Greenwood and Batley of Leeds (one of the original contractors for the .303 round) and shipped to Russia. Russia only went metric after the Commies made everybody do it, same as here.

You can just buy one type of components and load all your 7.65x53, .303 and 3-line ammo with the ame stuff.

Everybody and his DOG makes dies these days. They run from about $25 for a set of Lee, `way to Hel (little town in Norway, just down the coast from Throndheim) and gone up there, but they all work.

Starting with a .303 load makes sense, but don`t go TOO much above it. Remember, American loads are designed for the WRONG BULLET: a proper .312 will generate more pressure than a .308 slug....... and you ARE working with rifles that likely were built when your great-grandfather was a pup.

Above all: have fun!

That`s what it`s all about.
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smellie said:
It doesn't matter what powder YOU want to use. What matters is the powder that the RIFLE wants to use.

My friend and I messed around with military rifles for about 20 years. This included several years of mucking about with Moisins. We found that the rifles ALWAYS shot best with a .312 slug and that most of them really like 4895 or 4064 powder.

Not surprising: du Pont built several powder mills in the USSR in the 1920s, so it makes sense that the rifles do well with that type of powder. The original plant for the 7.62x54R (originally called the `Three-line 1891g cartridge`) was built by Greenwood and Batley of Leeds (one of the original contractors for the .303 round) and shipped to Russia. Russia only went metric after the Commies made everybody do it, same as here.

You can just buy one type of components and load all your 7.65x53, .303 and 3-line ammo with the ame stuff.

Everybody and his DOG makes dies these days. They run from about $25 for a set of Lee, `way to Hel (little town in Norway, just down the coast from Throndheim) and gone up there, but they all work.

Starting with a .303 load makes sense, but don`t go TOO much above it. Remember, American loads are designed for the WRONG BULLET: a proper .312 will generate more pressure than a .308 slug....... and you ARE working with rifles that likely were built when your great-grandfather was a pup.

Above all: have fun!

That`s what it`s all about.
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I agree and thanks for the cool history about mosins. My mosins like light loads like 37 or so grains no real need to load hot paper is easy to kill.
 
Thanks again for the info Smellie. It's much appreciated and I am thankful for the advice. I will see about tinkering with those different powders and see what is best to shoot with. We'll see what I can do with what I have to start (Winchester 760 and H335).

Sincerely,
Drach
 
You can buy brass from lapua they sell x53r brass, works great, look up the Canadian dealer 100pcs were around 93$ tradeex is out everyting at the moment.
Regards
 
Well, I just looked it up in the Lyman 49th edition reloading book.

Starting loads for IMR 4895:
125gr Jacketed SPT-43.5gr/2517fps======NEVER EXCEED 48gr/2816fps
150gr Jacketed SP-42.5gr/2438fps=======NEVER EXCEED 47.5gr/2748fps
174gr Jacketed RN-41.0gr/2233fps=======NEVER EXCEED 45.5/2496fps
180gr Jacketed SPT-41gr/2115fps=======NEVER EXCEED 45.5gr/2488fps

Loads for H335 and IMR-4064 weren't in the Lyman book, but if you were really interestd, I could look it up in the Lee book I have and see what's to be said.
 
If a person wants to use a single propellant to reload a variety of MILSURP rounds stick with either IMR4895 or IMR4064. I've used them both with excellent results in all of the 5.56/.223 Rem, 6.5x55 Swede, 7x57 Mauser, 7.62/.308, .30-06, .303 Brit and 7.62x54.

A selection of reloading manuals is a good investment. You can get used manuals cheap at gunshows. H335 is less than optimal for the larger 7.62x54 case with heavier bullets. It is excellent in both the 5.56/.223 and 7.62/.308.

One that doesn't get talked about too much any more is IMR4320. It was originally developed as a propellant for .30-06 match ammo and I've found it excellent in .30-06 bolt guns with 165-180gr bullets (don't use it in a Garand though-too slow burning) and the 7x57 Mauser. It is the best performer in my M27 Finnish MN with 165/168gr .308 bullets.
 
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