Can someone point me to a supplier here in Canada of Woodleigh bullets. I've Googled this and found a few places that have Woodleigh bullets, but most are the big ones--.375 up to .500. I'm interested in locating some of the Woodleigh 6.5mm. 160-gr. PPSP bullets. Not the 160 round nose; the 160 Protected Point.
Source for Woodleigh Bullets in Canada
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Frank grimes
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There’s a guy in Alberta I always use. Super helpful.
rslepp@shaw.ca Shoot him an email, I don’t have his number right now.
rslepp@shaw.ca Shoot him an email, I don’t have his number right now.
Thanks for that contact address. I contacted Rick, and he indicated that he has an order in with Woodleigh which is yet to be filled. He also indicated that it would be 10 weeks after Woodleigh delivers the order for him to receive them. So possibly mid-summer when they arrive here.
if you need them quicker and are willing to pay the premium, looks like they are in stock in the USA
http://www.huntingtons.com/store/product.php?productid=19941&cat=408&page=1
looks like they ship to Canada
http://www.huntingtons.com/store/product.php?productid=19941&cat=408&page=1
looks like they ship to Canada
I've used Huntingtons for Dies and other reloading tools, but they wouldn't ship brass or bullets. I think it's related to ITAR. Unless something has changed, and if so, please post here.
From their site:
We will export in any place in the world that the United States Department of State will allow us. There are restrictions concerning ammunition components. We must apply for an export license. This takes from 30 to 60 days. There is a service charge of $300. to $500. for processing the export license.
If your country requires an import certificate, we will need the original or a certified copy of the original certificate. If your country does not, we need an original letter stating your country does not require an import certificate. This letter must be stamped with an official government stamp.
While on the subject of Woodleigh bullets, I wonder whether anyone on this forum has used the Woodleigh .277 180-gr PPSN bullet. Woodleigh give it a BC of .513, which is pretty high, and its super-high sectional density should ensure deep penetration. Given that the Woodleigh bullets are bonded core, this 180-gr. .270 bullet should be terrific for moose, elk, and bear hunters using the .270 Win. or another of the .270 bore size. From a .270 Win., 2650 fps should be easily attainable, making this a good choice for these large animals out to 300 yards or so. The JBM Ballistics program suggests that it should stabilize in 10-twist barrels.
oops, sorry, missed that part
retained velocity from 75 yards on my Labradar suggests a .404 G1 BC for the 160 PP
That's interesting. Quite a bit lower than Woodleigh's published figure of .509.
yeah I asked them how they determine BC and they said "our BC are calculations only, based on charts supplied by Dupont some years ago, approximate only"
I just called Huntingdons and you're right, they are allowed (by whom I don't know...) to ship up to $500 worth of brass to a Canadian address. So that's good news, and this company has always been good to deal with. I didn't ask about bullets, but I suspect it will be the same deal.
you need to ask that specific question in another thread. as it seems a few tried and were not happy with the outcome.
Why another thread? We're discussing Woodleigh bullets in this thread. I did a search of this forum and found one thread that considered the .277 180-gr. bullet. The objections were: (a) that it is undoubtedly too long to stabilize in the usual .270 Win. 1:10 twist and (b) velocity would be too low for it to be effective.
With respect to the first objection, the JBM Ballistics stability calculator indicates that at 1.391" long, it should stabilize easily in a 1:10 twist (and Woodleigh themselves say that it will stabilize in this twist). With respect to the second objection, one forumer posted 2450 as the likely muzzle velocity. My calculations indicate that 2650 should be attainable, and with its high BC, trajectory shouldn't be too bad. It isn't a long-range bullet, but it seems to me that it should be just fine up to 300 yards.
Medvedqc, can you let us know the reasons that some were not happy with this bullet?
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- Western Manitoba
After years without owning one, I bought a used Sierra Handloading manual - I was quite taken by their section on external ballistics - as they report, their bullets do not have "a" Ballistic Co-efficient - that is dependant on the speed that it is travelling - so, for some of their bullets, they list up to 4 different B.C.'s, depending on the velocity it is travelling - so for some, from muzzle to target, might be going through three or more of the "speed ranges", hence, three or more "Ballistic Co-efficients". I have to believe that Sierra has learned something about how bullets behave on the way down range??
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- Western Manitoba
Through that Alberta company - Larch Valley Enterprises - I was able to get some .312" 174 grain PP SN bullets, and some .284" 140 grain PP SN bullets. What struck me on the Woodleigh package is that not only do they claim a B.C. number, and an S.D. number, but also a recommended impact velocity range. I would think for a hunter, that last number is decently important. I have never previously used Woodleigh PP SN bullets - looking forward to it.
