Southern Alberta 3Gun League

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Only a suggestion, but since there are often familiar faces at most of these events, I figured it would be fun to have a season of combined scores next year. It would help increase competitors to each event, plus add some friendly competition or friendship building between cities.

Not attempting to exclude other areas. Simply putting the most obvious solution first since both Medicine Hat and Lethbridge have a group of common competitors, as well as hopefully a few additions from Calgary, etc.

By no means am I competitive. If I finish middle scores or above, I'm stoked.

Thoughts? I know many of the key players are on CGN.
 
It's a great idea. We've done it in the Peace Country with Peace River, Fort St. John, and Grande Prairie.

If all the clubs are on the same page with respect to rules and divisions, it makes it much easier to have a real "season". Otherwise it's pretty much the same as before with a fancier name.
 
An official 3 gun organization might be challenging due to the variety of targetry used by the different clubs. Sanctioned matches might be difficult if there standardized targets are not being used. I don't think there will be much desire to spend money on targets in Medicine Hat. The club has spent quite a bit over the last two years and the executive has other priorities for the coming year.

Working out some sort of southern Alberta fun league might be fun.
 
kanada kidd said:
Why not start an official Alberta 3 Gun organization? Everyone can still have club matches but also some sanctioned matches.
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Personally, I don't have any interest in an "official" organization.

As the three MP3G clubs use the same rule set, every match is sanctioned.

Armycat said:
An official 3 gun organization might be challenging due to the variety of targetry used by the different clubs. Sanctioned matches might be difficult if there standardized targets are not being used. I don't think there will be much desire to spend money on targets in Medicine Hat. The club has spent quite a bit over the last two years and the executive has other priorities for the coming year.

Working out some sort of southern Alberta fun league might be fun.
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Different targets aren't an issue provided scoring and penalties are agreed on. We've used IDPA and both kinds of IPSC cardboards, clay pigeons, falling/spinning steel, and Texas stars and not had a problem.
 
We have had quite a variety of targets that would likely complicate things. Medicine Hat typically uses IPSC targets, clay pigeons, bowling pins, a variety of poppers in different shapes and sizes, lolly pops and has used Cowboy Action steel targets, home made steel and wood rifled slug targets, etc. For IPSC targets a 10 point system is used, A Zone = 5 points, C and D Zone = 4 points so 2 A Zones or 3 hits on paper give you 10 points.

Two years ago Lethbridge had IPSC targets, zombie targets with clay pigeons, bowling pins, police style silouhette targets and I am sure there were more that I can't remember.

For club level shooting this can get worked out, but for a formal 3 gun organization I can some people getting upset at wide variety of targets due to size, shape, and variety of colour.

I think a fun southern Alberta league would be a benefit. I know when we finished off our season this year we planned on at least co-ordinating our matches so the don't conflict with other clubs. Wait and see what the new year brings.
 
This is a great time to get the conversation started for sure.

Thinking about this... If the 3 or 4 clubs could agree on classes then the scoring and targets are pretty inconsequential. Every who competes at a match runs the same course, targets and penalties then we can sum the times at the end of the season. As long as the classes stay the same the sum of the scores is consistent throughout the season.

There is no feasible way for all the clubs to have the same targets (cost since we use what's available or what we can build) and exact rules (due to individual range rules). As long as each match is run consistent throughout that day all the participants are on an even level. Again though, assuming the classes are the same throughout the season.

Also, giving the stage designers the freedom to use what's on hand/what the build is a big part of the fun.
 
Part of the trick to being a multigun shooter right now is that every match has different rules. Have to digest and optimize your performance for the rules of the day. It requires a flexibility not seen in any other shooting sport.
 
adamg said:
It never ceases to amaze me how someone can build an entire website for a shooting club and fail to include the location of said range.
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It's the Lethbridge Fish and Game Association ranges. If you go to the Chinook Country Shooters Club links page there is a link to the Lethbridge Fish and Game Association web page and they have the range location.

What is there for 3 gun in the Saskatoon area? Looks like I will be back in Saskatoon in the new year but I having a hard time finding anything. I have heard rumors of 3 gun in Regina and Prince Albert but there's not much info on the Internet.
 
adamg said:
Part of the trick to being a multigun shooter right now is that every match has different rules. Have to digest and optimize your performance for the rules of the day. It requires a flexibility not seen in any other shooting sport.
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thats why you form a league of like minded ranges and have the same division rules.... and the same basic scoring (time based like idpa is best) frankly the type, number or whatever of targets doesnt really matter as long as the scoring is applied equally to each shooter at that match.....

if everyone is scored equally at the each single match it all works out.... the hardest part of getting people to shoot is getting thier guns and gear sorted out but if the division all remain the same for the clubs in the league then that is half the battle.

unorthodox targets like zombie targets for example, are easy.... headshot is down 0, anywhere else is down 5...... if your using the mannequin style 3d zombie target (without scoring insert) make the rule the shooter must "address" the target ie: take a shot at it or they recieve a -5 for that target.

we have clay pigeon throwers that sometimes throw a broken clay (word to wise, white clays are harder then orange) and the shooter must address the broken clay, if he fail to do so or his gun ran empty then he is penalized for that and it counts as a miss.

the jist of what i am saying is keep scoring simple, idpa style is perfect for that (ipsc not as much)..... keep the divisions the same for your area clubs, have basic guidelines that cover scoring for your conventional steel/cardboard/clay targets and have fun, dont exclude anyone and welcome newbies with open arms, dont fall to the paranoia that the worls is out to get you. enjoy yourself.
 
armycat said:
What is there for 3 gun in the Saskatoon area? Looks like I will be back in Saskatoon in the new year but I having a hard time finding anything. I have heard rumors of 3 gun in Regina and Prince Albert but there's not much info on the Internet.
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We have been hosting 2x single day matches a year for the last 3-4 years. And our range facility limited the number of stages we could build, and thus the number of shooters we could run through in a day, so we didn't advertise.

This winter the club (Saskatoon Wildlife Federation) is tearing down the outdoor ranges and moving them to a new location. The new ranges will be better for hosting 3gun and action pistol matches. But the construction is going to stretch into the summer for an unknown amount of time, so we can't make any commitments to quality and dates. If we organize ourselves properly we'll be set to go big in 2017.

Our claim to fame: we are #1 in most travelling done in pursuit of 3gun by members of a Western Canadian club in 2015.

Prince Albert hosted a bunch of 3gun matches this summer. Their info is at: http://www.paprc.ca/trigun.html

Regina doesn't have 3gun matches. I've heard of CQB matches, but don't know any details.
 
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to seeing what develops at SWF. Is it the Saskatoon Rifle and Revolver Club that hosts the 3 gun? I saw IPSC on the web site and it makes reference pistol, rifle and shotgun but I didn't see anything specific for 3 gun.
 
The SWF has this weird thing where if a member buys access to basically any of the shooting ranges then they are also a member of the SRRC. The SRRC seems to be in charge of putting on the various matches, which currently includes IDPA, IPSC, 3gun, and PPC. But really the match is put on by the volunteer match director and any assistants they can round up.

I don't think our website is very linked in to what actually happens at the club. We tend to use email lists and facebook to tell our members about upcoming events.
 
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