SP-01 Shadow
- Thread starter Canuck44
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Bob, What is the problem with the mag release?
Ratzilla - yes I was referring to the D/A pull.
barleyfeeder - Not a stupid question at all. No you can't mill the rail off. On page 20 of the rule book under Excluded modifications. "1. Externally visible modifications other than grips or sights."
John in B.C. - The mag release on the SP-01 Shadow extended beyond .2" (Page 22 item #9) and while it is legal right now because it is comes that way it may not be in the future as I uderstand there is thought to including the word "features" in the new rule book. Time will tell. As it stands right now the mag release is legal.
FYI HQ has already ruled the removal of the SP-01 firing pin block is illegal and guns so modified are not legal in IDPA.
Trust this answers your questions.
Take Care
Bob
barleyfeeder - Not a stupid question at all. No you can't mill the rail off. On page 20 of the rule book under Excluded modifications. "1. Externally visible modifications other than grips or sights."
John in B.C. - The mag release on the SP-01 Shadow extended beyond .2" (Page 22 item #9) and while it is legal right now because it is comes that way it may not be in the future as I uderstand there is thought to including the word "features" in the new rule book. Time will tell. As it stands right now the mag release is legal.
FYI HQ has already ruled the removal of the SP-01 firing pin block is illegal and guns so modified are not legal in IDPA.
Trust this answers your questions.
Take Care
Bob
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If the mag release is ruled illegal I will be some pissed. Seems that IDPA has a hard time with terms...Why allow it in the first place if it is such a huge issue it may result in a change to the 'book'.
Hearing this makes me feel very irritated!
Really IDPA is so inconsistent. They call the full length dustcover on pistols like the Shadow a 'modification' even though it is the stock configuration and thus exclude if from ESP even though it makes weight. NUTS! Now we need a rule change cause a mag release might be a couple thou over .2in!. NUTS!
Hearing this makes me feel very irritated!
Really IDPA is so inconsistent. They call the full length dustcover on pistols like the Shadow a 'modification' even though it is the stock configuration and thus exclude if from ESP even though it makes weight. NUTS! Now we need a rule change cause a mag release might be a couple thou over .2in!. NUTS!
John the dustcover rule is not aimed at the CZ Shadow. Thr rule was in place before the Shadow was produced. The whole concept is to try to maintain the sport for relatively inexpensive stock pistols. SSP Division is for stock guns and there is a weight rule as you know. If you can get the Shadow down to make weight it is good to go. The SP-01 was ruled to be a variant of the 75B, a good number of the parts are interchangeable thus the dust cover was a modification of the original design so it has to make weight in SSP, where full length dustcovers are legal, in order for it to be able to play in ESP.
The idea is to give the shooter as many places to play without having to go out and buy another pistol. So it isn't "Nuts" nor is it inconsistent with the concept of IDPA.
As far as extended mag releases are concerned if the gun comes with an extended mag release like a couple of the Glocks for instance and the Shadow, if the latter makes weight, you are presently good to go. In ESP/CDP extended mag releases are allowed provided they do not extend beyond .2".
There are only five pages in the rule book describing each division and what is allowed or not. All you have to do is decide whcih division you want to play in and find a pistol that meet the criteria for the division you choose.
Take Care
Bob
PS As an aside I should add I may change out the extended stock mag release on my Shadow with a 75B mag release. I have to leave the mag release on the left side in order to for the .22LR mags to seat when I use the .22LR top end. I prefer it on the right side as you know. When I reverse the mag release to the right side it sticks out to far for me and it is uncomfortable to depress with the trigger finger.
The idea is to give the shooter as many places to play without having to go out and buy another pistol. So it isn't "Nuts" nor is it inconsistent with the concept of IDPA.
As far as extended mag releases are concerned if the gun comes with an extended mag release like a couple of the Glocks for instance and the Shadow, if the latter makes weight, you are presently good to go. In ESP/CDP extended mag releases are allowed provided they do not extend beyond .2".
There are only five pages in the rule book describing each division and what is allowed or not. All you have to do is decide whcih division you want to play in and find a pistol that meet the criteria for the division you choose.
Take Care
Bob
PS As an aside I should add I may change out the extended stock mag release on my Shadow with a 75B mag release. I have to leave the mag release on the left side in order to for the .22LR mags to seat when I use the .22LR top end. I prefer it on the right side as you know. When I reverse the mag release to the right side it sticks out to far for me and it is uncomfortable to depress with the trigger finger.
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