SP85 and a 650

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Walter Hornby

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well after a flood in the basement and everything i have finally almost got my basement put back together and got my 650 set up. right now i am loading 38 super on it and i am using 9.5 grains of SP85. as with most 38 super cartidages this just about fills the case. the problem i am having is that as the press indexes it spills a bit of powder out of the case. i have moved my seating die from station 3 to station 2 and i try to get the bullet on the case before if finshes indexing since it seems to spill just as it hits the #2 spot. however i would like to have it not spilling any powder. any suggestions?
 
I'm assuming a guy with your level of experience has the press solidly anchored to the floor so that leaves the tool head movement to contend with.

You could experiment with shim stock to jam between the tool head and press grooves or better yet drill and tap the press to take some set screws to lock the toolhead.

Check the powder measure for top sway which will indicate excessive clearance in the mount; Dillon will usually send you new parts if you fake a heavy accent and tell them, "It's a no worka, it's a no worka, the powder she's afly everywhere, spoila my wine, dirty my cheese. You fixa!"

I witnessed a guy do this, they couldn't send enough parts to shut him up.

DVC
 
I use a 1050, but this may work on a 650. I take the powder check die out and set the bullet on the case mouth prior to indexing the press, next station I seat the bullet. No spillage, bit of a pain in the butt, better than inconsistant loads.

Andy
 
thanks for all of the suggestions to date. the first thing i did to try and fix the problem was to brace the press directly to the floor by putting a leg under the table directly under the press. this got rid of a lot of the "jump." the next thing i did was move the bullet seater to the number two station since i don't have a powder checker. for as long as i get it on the case before it finishes indexing this prevents any powder spill. both were good suggestions but ones i had already implemented but thank you for them.

in looking at the problem it seems like when the shell plate indexes on the ball bearing this gives the shell plate a little jump. i am wondering if I loosen up on the shell plate just a bit if this would cut down on the "jump."

Also i am still trying to decide if there is any sway in the powder measure that can be elminated. i know a friend of mine who is a machinist was totally disgusted with the amount of play in his powder measure and machined a new collar for it.

thanks for all of the help guys!
 
762nato said:
I use a 1050, but this may work on a 650. I take the powder check die out and set the bullet on the case mouth prior to indexing the press, next station I seat the bullet. No spillage, bit of a pain in the butt, better than inconsistant loads.

Andy
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This is a great idea but it works better if you mount your 1050 backwards so you're working the lever with your left hand and feeding with your right (in most people stronger and more dexterious hand). This method gives you a better view of the operation so you don't need the powder check station as you can see it. If you leave the rest of the setup as suggested by Dillon you actually gain speed as well.
 
it's at about 98% right now Rich. i haven't tried cutting the spring yet as i haven't dug through my spare parts yet to see if i have a spare spring or not before i go cutting one. once i get a spare spring i am going to give it a try and i will report back here.
 
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