Rocket Surgery
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This was one of the first things the BC NDP did was ban grizzly hunting
Spear hunting outlawed
- Thread starter Thomas D'Arcy McGee
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This was one of the first things the BC NDP did was ban grizzly hunting
That video was great, right up to the point the guy starts dancing around like a Keebler Elf. I commend him for hunting with such a primitive weapon and doing so with, as he says, “no backup”. Killing a bear is an achievement, killing a bear with a spear is a monumental achievement. However, giving the animal some respect after the fact would have added to the overall experience. I’m not a bleeding heart, I just believe we need to respect what it is we are doing.
...the shift from a rural Canadian population to an urban Canadian population...the move from the farm into the city...the transition from animal traction to vehicles...all have worked to create a Disneyland view of the world of animals
...combine that with the relative lack of physical suffering compared to other countries here in Canada medically and how we sterilize death any more and people really become upset over very natural things
...i still have vivid memories of going to neighbour's farm houses and having the corpse displayed in a casket in the living room and people sitting around and talking...now we whisk them away and burn them up
...there's nothing there to provide people with a way to grasp reality
...i'm certainly not sadistic...i don't take pleasure in killing...but i am a hunter...and i do eat...and i despise going to grocery stores any more as we raise virtually all of our own food which includes wild game
...combine that with the relative lack of physical suffering compared to other countries here in Canada medically and how we sterilize death any more and people really become upset over very natural things
...i still have vivid memories of going to neighbour's farm houses and having the corpse displayed in a casket in the living room and people sitting around and talking...now we whisk them away and burn them up
...there's nothing there to provide people with a way to grasp reality
...i'm certainly not sadistic...i don't take pleasure in killing...but i am a hunter...and i do eat...and i despise going to grocery stores any more as we raise virtually all of our own food which includes wild game
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
No Your Honor, I didn't use a spear to kill that bear. First I harpooned him; note the detachable point, secured to a line. Note how the harpoon head turns sideways under the skin, so once the line is wrapped around a tree, the bear can't get away, and it can then be killed with a tomahawk. I secured him with the harpoon, but I killed him with a tomahawk!
How idiotic. The antis call rifle hunters cowards, but if someone has the courage to face a bear on the ground with a pointy stick, its considered cruel. If you want humane, don't argue against the rifle. If you don't like guns, don't argue against the spear. If you don't think bears should be killed, I can arrange for you to meet one.
How idiotic. The antis call rifle hunters cowards, but if someone has the courage to face a bear on the ground with a pointy stick, its considered cruel. If you want humane, don't argue against the rifle. If you don't like guns, don't argue against the spear. If you don't think bears should be killed, I can arrange for you to meet one.
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bearkilr
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- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
Some people get excited like that, but I agree it's a little over the top. Again, some things don't have to be broadcast for the world to see. One would wonder if he were to show the same type of "excitement" if the camera wasn't rolling.
On the flipside, I find equally "over the top" when hunters pose with an animal they've killed holding it by the head and staring deeply into its eyes, like they're showing deep remorse or something.
Do you see how people react at the Superbowl or Stanley Cup final??? And it isn't even their accomplishment. I have been beside dozens of hunters when they took their first bear and the reactions have run the gamut from tears to cheers... one guy jumped out of a ten foot treestand and ran to his arrow to check for blood. In this case of the spear harvest, he had planned and trained and chosen a particularly difficult challenge, so the reaction he had to a successful conclusion was proportionate to the investment he made... not my style, but I won't criticize him for it.
I do not have the knowledge to have an informed opinion on spear hunting, but that video reeked of ego and disrespect - the guy had a flip'n GoPro tied to his weapon.
The hunting community cannot win the battle of public opinion, especially the Trophy Hunting community, if it does not dissociate itselves from guys that do not understand that the perception of disrespect of the animal is what will sway most non-hunters to anti. I do not begrudge him his little dance, but don't post that on Youtube and expect non-hunters to get it and antis to not leverage it against the hunting community.
The hunting community cannot win the battle of public opinion, especially the Trophy Hunting community, if it does not dissociate itselves from guys that do not understand that the perception of disrespect of the animal is what will sway most non-hunters to anti. I do not begrudge him his little dance, but don't post that on Youtube and expect non-hunters to get it and antis to not leverage it against the hunting community.
What's wrong with that? I film lots of my hunts, I enjoy watching them with my kids during the off season.
canadian hunter312
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- Brant County
Figure it out? I am pretty sure humans figured it out a long, long time ago that there are much better options than using spears. I suppose you'd be okay with people hunting big game with rocks too despite the high odds of wounding and low odds of a clean kill? I mean, if one guy wants to do it then we should all agree with it, right?
Please, enlighten me as to the number of non indigenous hunters who are currently using spears to hunt big game in Canada, specifically Alberta. I am not being argumentative, I honestly want to know the number of spear hunters out there.
Sure, anti's are part of the problem hunters face today. But, IMO the biggest problem we have is hunters who think they should be able to do whatever they want and everyone should agree with it. I'm not sure if you've noticed or not, but this all or nothing mentality isn't exactly working in our favor by gaining support from non hunters, is it? Maybe it's time to take off the blinders to take a look around and see that times are changing and hunters need to change as well.
Spear hunting (throwing) is likely the least efficient method with the highest odds of wounding an animal. Sorry, but I have too much respect for the animal to support such nonsense.
I dont know how many people are using spears, it's more than you think though..... And really, it doesn't matter.....
I am not in favor of killing big game with rocks.... Where the hell do you get that?, this is the same exact line of thinking anti hunters use to get things banned...... Everything to extremes, all black and whites....
What I am in favor of is someone being able to challenge themselves and provide a sporting chance to the animal, and if that means using a spear and they practice and can deliver a clean kill, then more power to them.... Who are you to decide what is right or wrong for anyone but yourself? Why should we all be forced to follow the direction of your moral compass?
By your "efficiency" logic, we should ban all but the most effective way of taking game, which is by rifle..... Way to throw a lot of other hunters under the bus.....
And guess what, when rifles are all that are left, be prepared to lose them in short order too......
i hunt...i support all forms of hunting...i send the Canadian Sealing Association $25/year for membership and a note telling them to keep up the good work every year even though i'm 800 km from the nearest seals...https://www.sealharvest.ca/?page_id=4369...it's just one more line of defence in my book
in the early 80's i had a friend who lived in a cabin on the north shore of superior...we fished and hunted a lot together...one day i showed up and he had a deer hanging and a really well-built bloodied spear...killed it from a deer stand...first man i ever met who did something like this...he also circumnavigated lake superior in a homebuilt wood framed canvas-covered kayak he took from an innu design...sealed the canvas with airplane dope...he was the first one that got me thinking seriously about not spending my life working for a paycheque so that some other guy could make money off me and me missing out on life itself...to hell with that...others have better toys but i'm not a slave to anyone...i hunt in my back yard which is remote
contacted 2 museums on designs to make harpoons (manipogo and the giant snakes here don't ya know)...one in mystic seaport connecticut and the other in nova scotia...what d'ya want that for?...thought it might come in handy up north some time on some of the big lakes i'm on...they wouldn't help...had to do my own background work
and fyi...the bayonet off of an sks makes a great spear blade that is strong and can easily be riveted to a metal sleeve over the end of a green ash shaft...
...you're never going to get support for hunting from non-hunters...give it up
in the early 80's i had a friend who lived in a cabin on the north shore of superior...we fished and hunted a lot together...one day i showed up and he had a deer hanging and a really well-built bloodied spear...killed it from a deer stand...first man i ever met who did something like this...he also circumnavigated lake superior in a homebuilt wood framed canvas-covered kayak he took from an innu design...sealed the canvas with airplane dope...he was the first one that got me thinking seriously about not spending my life working for a paycheque so that some other guy could make money off me and me missing out on life itself...to hell with that...others have better toys but i'm not a slave to anyone...i hunt in my back yard which is remote
contacted 2 museums on designs to make harpoons (manipogo and the giant snakes here don't ya know)...one in mystic seaport connecticut and the other in nova scotia...what d'ya want that for?...thought it might come in handy up north some time on some of the big lakes i'm on...they wouldn't help...had to do my own background work
and fyi...the bayonet off of an sks makes a great spear blade that is strong and can easily be riveted to a metal sleeve over the end of a green ash shaft...
...you're never going to get support for hunting from non-hunters...give it up
I love watching hunting videos and pics as well and would probably enjoy watching yours. What is wrong with this video, the GoPro being one example, is that hunting in BC has just taken another big PR hit and the hunting community is further fragmented.
make your own
why support them?
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how many people in alberta hunt with spears?
...if it doesn't have an engine most albertans don't give a rip
I made my own... double edge, 14" long and screws into a 1" ID shaft... but it is a thrusting spear, not a throwing spear.
I know a couple dozen who have hunted with spears, including myself. One has taken a dozen bears, and has never lost one. I did it once, and it was deadly efficient. You are talking out of your hat, because you clearly have no knowledge of the pursuit. If you would like to educate yourself, there are dozens of videos out there.
