Speeding up precision rifle reloading

Shooter 1971
I have just ordered one from them! Yes it is a 3 way.
I agree the website leaves to be desired, I sent an email asking for the trimmer, 2 pilots (308 and 6.5x47L) and a spare cutting blade.

They say to have received my request and invoice inbound soon.


I am really happy, this will save me loads of time.

Another thing I have tried last night, was reorganizing my reload table.
Made some space for my forster priming station left of my FX120.

Have all my prepped brass in a bin (not in a tray) for quicker manipulation.
Put the cup in the fx120 auto trickler/thrower,
Prime brass,
Pour powder, immediately put back cup in auto scale,
Seat bullet, put cartridge in case,
Take a new brass piece piece and prime it,
Powder and put back cup in.... repeat everything.

By adding the priming to the process, there is now zero down time.
Even if fx120 auto is quick, I used to powder and seat bullets at the same time, and still had a bit of idling so I used to check concentricity.

Now the powder cup is ready a second or two before I am.


With corncob tumbling (instead of krazy kloth)
AMP amp mate
Extreme gun trimmer (found it thanks to this thread!)
And my new powdering station setup,

I am sure to save some good time.
Hard to quantify but certainly not negligible.


Now I’m on a quest towards finding the quickest neck turner to manipulate.
This is one of these tedious things...
 
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If you want to lessen the labour, the biggest gain you can make is to touch each piece of brass fewer times.

I would think that you could skip that primer pocket cleaning step entirely and save a lot of time with no measurable difference downrange.
 
If you have the courage, try skipping a bunch of those steps. As long as brass is not too long, just clean, resize, prime and load. Don't bother with anything else. Just keep powder charges consistent. I'd be willing to bet you can't tell the difference between ammo when it's shot.
 
lt.hicks@rogers.com said:
If you have the courage, try skipping a bunch of those steps. As long as brass is not too long, just clean, resize, prime and load. Don't bother with anything else. Just keep powder charges consistent. I'd be willing to bet you can't tell the difference between ammo when it's shot.
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With my 308 it’s forgiving enough to skip a bunch of steps if I’d want.
Still got this compulsive obsession to produce the best ammo possible.

In my 6.5 brass flows a lot near the neck base, and if these aren’t turned every firing, the FLS will start pushing that brass inwards. As long as I turn every firing, brass only flows outwards.

Johnny, I recently subscribed to Erik’s channel, I do enjoy looking at how pro shooters reload
 
MartyK2500 said:
With my 308 it’s forgiving enough to skip a bunch of steps if I’d want.
Still got this compulsive obsession to produce the best ammo possible.

In my 6.5 brass flows a lot near the neck base, and if these aren’t turned every firing, the FLS will start pushing that brass inwards. As long as I turn every firing, brass only flows outwards.

Johnny, I recently subscribed to Erik’s channel, I do enjoy looking at how pro shooters reload
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Trust me I understand the compulsion, it's hard to not do everything you can not to squeeze every bit of potential out of your reloads. But if you do an honest assessment of what you're getting for all the extra labour, I can almost guarentee you you won't be able to tell the difference on paper, and barely, tell the difference over a chrono, if at all. Unless you're in the benchrest game it's a lot of wasted time in my opinion. Better off with that time spent behind the gun.
 
MartyK2500 said:
In my 6.5 brass flows a lot near the neck base, and if these aren’t turned every firing, the FLS will start pushing that brass inwards. As long as I turn every firing, brass only flows outwards.
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Something is very wrong with your current set-up if you have to repeatedly neck turn. I'm not sure if you are not cutting back far enough or what.
Please post photo's before and after to describe this problem better.
 
Shooter1971 said:
Have more info on trimmer? Is it s 3 way? Does it use pilots? For 600$ you'd think xg could have a description lol
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Shooter1971

It does trim,champher and deburr. It uses case holder/pilot. ya , MartyK2500 found the same thing (me too) the description on the site leaves a lot to be desired.

I ordered 2 case holders with the unit and had a buddy with a machine shop make me a couple. You need to basically chamber a 7/8" threaded rod (reloading die thread ) . He did one in aluminum for the 223.I don't use that one too much.

I've been pretty happy with the unit,I've only had it for a year.
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The lock rings came out of my drawer LOL Switched most of my dies to the Forrester rings for the Coax
 
Shooter1971 said:
I built my own auto annealer
Works good but need a bigger induction coil. Think I will order a trimmer
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I have a homemade induction annealer programable to millisecond but have to manually set one in place.
Double thunbs up as your automation is the coolest homemade unit I ever saw !
Koodos Shooter1971 !
 
MartyK2500 said:
1. Clean brass with Krazy Kloth.
Will be switching over to corn cob tumbler, don’t think I’m sacrificing anything here.
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I have seen a few others on CGN talk about the "Krazy Klothe" for cleaning brass.
Been wanting to give this a try, but when I go on Amazon and see $39 (for a 14" by 9" piece) it kinda of turns me off from the idea.

How durable are these Clothes ? About how many brass could you clean with one ?
Comparable to a say a Chamois ?
 
Rookie{OMC} -- thanks for posting the Xtreme trimmer here, wouldn't have found it otherwise, just placed an order for one.

I've been wanting a Giraud for a long while now, but last time I went to order one, Doug said he wasn't shipping to Canada, so this seems like a reasonable option.
 
josh.s said:
Rookie{OMC} -- thanks for posting the Xtreme trimmer here, wouldn't have found it otherwise, just placed an order for one.

I've been wanting a Giraud for a long while now, but last time I went to order one, Doug said he wasn't shipping to Canada, so this seems like a reasonable option.
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Same thing here,
This thread will have sold them a few trimmers for sure!

I also consider getting a second one if my first one works really well.
Both would be permanently set to a caliper with no time wasted switching calibers.
 
Hi Rookie...any chance you could take a few more pics?
Interested in the motor specs, and drive system. I just bought a Hornady 3 way cutter head, I'm going to build a trimmer around it. Looking for some inspiration.

Cheers
Rookie{OMC} said:
Shooter1971

It does trim,champher and deburr. It uses case holder/pilot. ya , MartyK2500 found the same thing (me too) the description on the site leaves a lot to be desired.

I ordered 2 case holders with the unit and had a buddy with a machine shop make me a couple. You need to basically chamber a 7/8" threaded rod (reloading die thread ) . He did one in aluminum for the 223.I don't use that one too much.

I've been pretty happy with the unit,I've only had it for a year.
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The lock rings came out of my drawer LOL Switched most of my dies to the Forrester rings for the Coax
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josh.s said:
Rookie{OMC} -- thanks for posting the Xtreme trimmer here, wouldn't have found it otherwise, just placed an order for one.

I've been wanting a Giraud for a long while now, but last time I went to order one, Doug said he wasn't shipping to Canada, so this seems like a reasonable option.
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Josh.s

No worries ,glad I could help. I thought most everyone might have known about the site. I stumbled onto it one time searching for something.
 
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