splits in production division
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Madness said:
hahahaha!! (sorry, Madness, I'm NOT laughing at you).
.25...
right...
I tend to be about .35s; with my guns I'd have a hard time getting under .25 shooting like mad at point blank range, never mind getting As at 10m
Why don't you aim for 0.5s, and once you get to 85% with that, you can try speeding up to go even higher. Split times, by themselves, are meaningless in anything other than hose-'em speed shoots, work on every aspect of shooting technique (movement, reloads, target movement, stage analysis, accuracy, draw, etc). Consider: on a 32round field course, that's 16 second shots. Having splits of .3 vs .5 is 3.2s of extra time on the course. Once you get to the point there that 3s would make a huge difference, by all means, practice that. Until then, don't worry about it so much.
"Move fast; do everything else slow."
Chuck Bradley.
Seriously; If you're focusing on your spit times you are putting your attention in the wrong place. Focus on moving smoothly and efficiently. Focus on target aqusitions and accurracy, and let your vision be your speedometer. Do that and the splits will take care of themselves. Having said that; it is a good idea to know what kind of splits you will shoot at a given distance on any level of target difficulty. You can use this knowledge to plan your stage solutions and know pretty closely what your time will be before you shoot it.
Chuck Bradley.
Seriously; If you're focusing on your spit times you are putting your attention in the wrong place. Focus on moving smoothly and efficiently. Focus on target aqusitions and accurracy, and let your vision be your speedometer. Do that and the splits will take care of themselves. Having said that; it is a good idea to know what kind of splits you will shoot at a given distance on any level of target difficulty. You can use this knowledge to plan your stage solutions and know pretty closely what your time will be before you shoot it.
Quigley said:
Bingo.
16 targets, 15 transitions.
Change: bang bang....bang bang ....bang bang....to
bangbangbangbangbangbang and you are saving time. Lots of time.
Cheesy explanation, but save .3 over 15 transitions and you save 4.5 seconds on one stage. Over a 150 round match that's 22.5 seconds saved.
As a rule of thumb, you should shoot splits only as fast as you can move the gun between targets. (splits and transitions the same)
IMHO, etc...
V7
omen said:hahahaha!! (sorry, Madness, I'm NOT laughing at you).
.25...
right...
I tend to be about .35s; with my guns I'd have a hard time getting under .25 shooting like mad at point blank range, never mind getting As at 10m
Why don't you aim for 0.5s, and once you get to 85% with that, you can try speeding up to go even higher. Split times, by themselves, are meaningless in anything other than hose-'em speed shoots, work on every aspect of shooting technique (movement, reloads, target movement, stage analysis, accuracy, draw, etc). Consider: on a 32round field course, that's 16 second shots. Having splits of .3 vs .5 is 3.2s of extra time on the course. Once you get to the point there that 3s would make a huge difference, by all means, practice that. Until then, don't worry about it so much.
No kidding, eh? I was gonna say!
I'm exceptionally happy with .35 splits at 10 m, and I only get below 25 when I'm friggin' rocking at point blank raange.
up close you should go for A's at like 3-5m with splits in the low .20's. AT 10 I would say exactly what the guys above have mentioned, .35's avergage.
Like Viper7 and the others have said, the transitions are more important.
Like Viper7 and the others have said, the transitions are more important.
Splits in production
Splits mean nothing in a match. A's and fast transitions are what matters.
People only look at them to see if they think they were fast.
Splits vary with distance and available target.
Try aiming the sights at the A zone of the target,
....press the trigger straight back and see the front sight lift from the target where you will be hitting it,
....bring the sights back on the target,
.... press the trigger straight back and see the front sight lift from the target where you will be hitting it,
.... as the front sight lifts look to the next target as fast as possible,
.....focus on the A zone of the next target as fast as possible,
.... bring your sights to the A zone as fast as possible,
....repeat the above till all tagets are shot.
This always works no matter what your skill level is.
Splits mean nothing in a match. A's and fast transitions are what matters.
People only look at them to see if they think they were fast.
Splits vary with distance and available target.
Try aiming the sights at the A zone of the target,
....press the trigger straight back and see the front sight lift from the target where you will be hitting it,
....bring the sights back on the target,
.... press the trigger straight back and see the front sight lift from the target where you will be hitting it,
.... as the front sight lifts look to the next target as fast as possible,
.....focus on the A zone of the next target as fast as possible,
.... bring your sights to the A zone as fast as possible,
....repeat the above till all tagets are shot.
This always works no matter what your skill level is.
doc25 said:
Who me? or the Ipsik guy?
I was focused on splits for a while, but only because my splits at distance targets was slow. I realize that transitions are more important, although splits can help, but a difference of .18-.24 split on close targets is not going to make much of a difference.
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doc25 said:
Ipsik said:
Ouch...
Skooled, skooled hard.
Thanks for making my night DOC25, I almost fell off my chair laughing.
IPSIK is definately one of Canada's best all-round shooters. Listen to him well.
Omen and Relliott are also two very fine shooters, and they have VERY helpful comments. If you read those three notes, absorb, and follow, you will do well.
Don't worry about your splits (I don't). Be smooth, shoot A's, and transition well.
You will know by the scores how you are doing.
IPSIK is definately one of Canada's best all-round shooters. Listen to him well.
Omen and Relliott are also two very fine shooters, and they have VERY helpful comments. If you read those three notes, absorb, and follow, you will do well.
Don't worry about your splits (I don't). Be smooth, shoot A's, and transition well.
You will know by the scores how you are doing.
