Sportorized enfield
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Depends how it's mounted. Solid mount, with screws going into drilled and tapped holes? Shouldn't have any issues.
"no-gunsmith" mounts? A few actually work, but the low-end ones are not worth a dime.
Lou
"no-gunsmith" mounts? A few actually work, but the low-end ones are not worth a dime.
Lou
Shouldn't be that hard.
If it's a N0. 4 with a peep sight it's a pretty good set of irons. Won't be making many 300 yd pinpoint shot's without good eyes and lots of practice, but still an good set of sights below that.
If it's a N0. 4 with a peep sight it's a pretty good set of irons. Won't be making many 300 yd pinpoint shot's without good eyes and lots of practice, but still an good set of sights below that.
Well, you are a New Guy here, so I will help you out a bit.
Don't take this personal but your request is like saying "I have a Car, can you tell me what motor fits it?" There is simply not enough information in your question.
There are several "Enfield" rifles. The Commonwealth countries used the Short-Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) in mostly the Number 1 Mark III* form. During WWII, they used the Number 4 Lee Enfield rifle. There was also the Pattern 14 Enfield and the U.S. Model 1917 Enfield rifle in 30-06 Calibre.
As you can see, we now have FOUR different rifles, so we have to identify which one you have.
Absolutely the best way to have something identified is to post pictures. There are "stickies" here to tell you how to do that.
Also, there should be markings on the rifle and this will possibly help you identify the model. If the original sights have not been removed, then there is a fairly "quick and dirty" method of identifying your rifle. First of all, does it have a detachable magazine? If it does, it is of the Lee system. Is the safety on the right side or the left side. Right side is Enfield M-17 or P-14. Left side is Lee Enfield or SMLE. Second --is the rear sight mounted on the rear of the receiver, (peep sight) or is it mounted halfway up the barrel? If rear sight is an open sight, mounted half way up the barrel, it is probably a Number 1 Mark III type. If so, look on the right side of the steel butt socket in the area just back of the bolt handle and it should have some markings on it, such as "GR, No.1 Mk.III*" or similar. If it is a No. 4 rifle, there MAY be markings on the flat on the left side of the receiver or on the left side of the butt socket.
In the case of the Lee system rifles, there are "no gunsmithing" mounts that are available for ORIGINAL standard rifles. If someone has ground off some of the area where these mounts need for securing it to the rifle, then obviously these will not work with a modified rifle.
So, the main thing is to positively identify your rifle, then we can go from there and help you out.
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Don't take this personal but your request is like saying "I have a Car, can you tell me what motor fits it?" There is simply not enough information in your question.
There are several "Enfield" rifles. The Commonwealth countries used the Short-Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) in mostly the Number 1 Mark III* form. During WWII, they used the Number 4 Lee Enfield rifle. There was also the Pattern 14 Enfield and the U.S. Model 1917 Enfield rifle in 30-06 Calibre.
As you can see, we now have FOUR different rifles, so we have to identify which one you have.
Absolutely the best way to have something identified is to post pictures. There are "stickies" here to tell you how to do that.
Also, there should be markings on the rifle and this will possibly help you identify the model. If the original sights have not been removed, then there is a fairly "quick and dirty" method of identifying your rifle. First of all, does it have a detachable magazine? If it does, it is of the Lee system. Is the safety on the right side or the left side. Right side is Enfield M-17 or P-14. Left side is Lee Enfield or SMLE. Second --is the rear sight mounted on the rear of the receiver, (peep sight) or is it mounted halfway up the barrel? If rear sight is an open sight, mounted half way up the barrel, it is probably a Number 1 Mark III type. If so, look on the right side of the steel butt socket in the area just back of the bolt handle and it should have some markings on it, such as "GR, No.1 Mk.III*" or similar. If it is a No. 4 rifle, there MAY be markings on the flat on the left side of the receiver or on the left side of the butt socket.
In the case of the Lee system rifles, there are "no gunsmithing" mounts that are available for ORIGINAL standard rifles. If someone has ground off some of the area where these mounts need for securing it to the rifle, then obviously these will not work with a modified rifle.
So, the main thing is to positively identify your rifle, then we can go from there and help you out.
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Ok, so no pic yet, but there is a removable mag, on the left of the receiver it says long branch then 1943. There is a removable peep sight mounted to the left side which I believe is after market and I believe my grampa said that the safety was removed to accommodate the sight. There are other markings, the bolt head is a#2'. there's what I'd assume to be a serial number on the top of the chamber, and again on the barrel (180A). Some crowns on left if chamber with a E'42 and an arrow pointing toward 42. A "V" on the right of chamber. I'm sure most of that is the manufacturer stamps. I'll take a pic as soon as I get a camera back.
You have a Canadian made #4 mk1*. Any gunsmith that says there will be issues mounting a scope, find another smith. These rifles are commonly scoped. Various methods are used but there you have it. A fine game rifle
I bought an ATI no gunsmith scope mount for my No. 4 and it works great. Put it on with some soap on the screws, took it to the range, and fired a hundred or so rounds, checking the screws intermittently. They didn't budge, no wanderign zero.
Yes, we NEED photos.
Removable aperture sight on the LH side, replacing the Safety? Parker-Hale or Martin or other Match sight, perhaps.
For scoping my own Number 4, I am using an S&K no-drill mount and it works just fine: very solid.
Sounds as if your rifle has had the barrel replaced at some time with an English-made 1942 tube.
Again, photos are necessary.
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Removable aperture sight on the LH side, replacing the Safety? Parker-Hale or Martin or other Match sight, perhaps.
For scoping my own Number 4, I am using an S&K no-drill mount and it works just fine: very solid.
Sounds as if your rifle has had the barrel replaced at some time with an English-made 1942 tube.
Again, photos are necessary.
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A ONE-PIECE STOCK????????????
For one thing, you'll never restore it as a military rifle.
For another thing, you have a VERY scarce item.
Whoever did this one REALLY knew his onions. He has taken a discarded military rifle and built it into a fine Custom rifle which shows top-grade workmanship. From the appearance, I would think the work was done about 50 years ago, in a shop which respected the rifle and did wonderful work. I would suspect BSA or Parker-Hale might be the culprits, but PH generally marked their rifles, so I would plump for it being a BSA Custom-grade conversion. They were expensive. Still are, for that matter.
This one is a Keeper for sure.
Congratulations!
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For one thing, you'll never restore it as a military rifle.
For another thing, you have a VERY scarce item.
Whoever did this one REALLY knew his onions. He has taken a discarded military rifle and built it into a fine Custom rifle which shows top-grade workmanship. From the appearance, I would think the work was done about 50 years ago, in a shop which respected the rifle and did wonderful work. I would suspect BSA or Parker-Hale might be the culprits, but PH generally marked their rifles, so I would plump for it being a BSA Custom-grade conversion. They were expensive. Still are, for that matter.
This one is a Keeper for sure.
Congratulations!
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Let me be the third person to ask you to please not bugger around with this rifle. It's sporterized, sure, but VERY well done, and elegant like an old-time movie starlet.
No more holes, no heavy-duty handloads, no taking it out in the rain. It is the gun equivalent of an older British sports car, requiring respect and admiration. Please be good to her.
No more holes, no heavy-duty handloads, no taking it out in the rain. It is the gun equivalent of an older British sports car, requiring respect and admiration. Please be good to her.
I have to quote this picture just because it's awesome.
That has to be the nicest sporterized LE I've ever seen. Tasteful.
well, after those replys i won't be adding a scope. glad i asked first. she is light, but works well. I had to replace the ejector spring, but that was an easy fix. i'll keep the loads light too. thanks everyone for your help and patience with this noob.
