Spring guns prohib in NS for hunting , or anything for that matter..

Levi Garrett

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Spring guns prohib in NS for hunting, and even having them in the field. I knew these folks were stupid, but did I read it right? and wtf is a swivel gun?
I figure the people that make these laws do not have a clue what their up to , I knew they had no clue about wildlife , but heck:D:rolleyes:

Also Newfoundland has 22's prohib, why, and if a good reason, why not Air rifles.? their awesome on small game, and safer for other hunters.
 
Where did you get that load of crap?

from others, its not so? if allowed thats great news...:cool: how's about air rifles?
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since I picked the info up from friends, and it was long ago here is the info, and its old news, happy they come around, kinda figured why they were banned



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September 8, 1999
(Forest Resources and Agrifoods)

Small game hunters can use .22 calibre rimfire rifle on the island

Kevin Aylward, Minister of Forest Resources and Agrifoods, said today that government has approved the use of 22-calibre rimfire rifles in the pursuit of small game effective immediately. "The island portion of the province was the only place in North America where the .22-calibre rimfire rifle was banned and during the outdoor consultation process there was representation to have the ban lifted" said Mr. Aylward.

The .22 calibre rimfire rifle was banned for hunting small game in this province in 1963 largely because of the perception at the time that poaching of big game would occur. Many of the conditions which led to the initial ban no longer apply. Poaching has been significantly reduced in most parts of the province through better protection and public education, increased fines, and improved public attitudes towards our natural resources. Wildlife officials in Labrador, where the rimfire rifle has not been banned have not encountered any poaching or safety problems that can be specifically attributed to the use of the .22 calibre rimfire rifle here.

The advantages of allowing the .22 rimfire to be used for the hunting of ptarmigan, grouse and hares include decreased big game crippling losses as a result of improved marksmanship, consistency of regulations in North America, lower ammunition costs and enhanced opportunity for small game hunters. The lifting of this ban does not apply to waterfowl (ducks and geese) as these species are under the jurisdiction of the federal government. No where in Canada is the .22 allowed for waterfowl hunting based on difficulties associated with making long retrieves over water.

Minister Aylward said: "Generally speaking, Newfoundland residents have become well-trained, safe and responsible firearm owners and users. Since 1978, over 110,000 people have met the provincial hunter training requirements (over 20 per cent of the entire population). The current training requirement consists of a comprehensive 17-hour hands-on course in firearms safety and hunter education. This course is required of all new hunters and those existing hunters who have not had previous hunter training. Firearms accident rates have been declining since implementation of hunter training prerequisites."

Beaton Tulk, Minister of Development and Rural Renewal, who chaired the Committee on the Use of Outdoor Resources, said: "These actions demonstrate government's continuing response to concerns addressed during the consultation process." During the fall of 1998, the Committee on the Use of the Outdoors heard representation to have the ban on the .22 calibre rimfire lifted. Since that time government, has reviewed the issue in consultation with officials of the Department of Forest Resources and Agrifoods.

On July 6, Mr. Tulk released "Our Smiling Land: Government's Vision for the Protection and Use of Newfoundland and Labrador's Outdoor Resources". Copies of Our Smiling Land are available at government's web site at www.gov.nl.ca/whatsnew/ or by writing to Mr. Tulk, c/o Committee on Use of Outdoor Resources, 2nd Floor, Confederation Building, West Block, P.O. Box 8700, St. John's, NF, A1B 4J6.

Media contact: Cynthia Layden-Barron, (709) 729 6183

1999 09 08 3:10 p.m.
 
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Levi,

The prohibition against hunting with spring guns in NS
may refer to a "set" gun, triggered by a spring rather than
an airgun powered by one.
 
Yep. Spring guns and swivel guns are guns that are set and have tripwires to set them off.

A spring gun usually is fixed in position, a swivel gun has several trip lines, and swivels in the direction of the one pulled, then goes off.

They used to be used, in Jolly Old England, as a deterrent to poachers, as well as by the poachers themselves.


Is it just me, or has the Liberal mentality been prevalent in Nfld for a very long time? The laws seem to have been written under the assumption that all that they applied to, were scammers, or poachers, without exception.

It begs the question as to whether the whole lot were in general need of such laws, or if the laws planted the idea in their heads. :D


Cheers
Trev
 
Yep. Spring guns and swivel guns are guns that are set and have tripwires to set them off.

A spring gun usually is fixed in position, a swivel gun has several trip lines, and swivels in the direction of the one pulled, then goes off.

They used to be used, in Jolly Old England, as a deterrent to poachers, as well as by the poachers themselves.


Is it just me, or has the Liberal mentality been prevalent in Nfld for a very long time? The laws seem to have been written under the assumption that all that they applied to, were scammers, or poachers, without exception.

It begs the question as to whether the whole lot were in general need of such laws, or if the laws planted the idea in their heads. :D


Cheers
Trev

In other words, a "spring gun" versus the vernacular "springer"? ;)
 
Good heavens! Is common sense peeping through in the eastern colonies? Where are the liebral, tree hugging, soccer moms? Think of the children. If it saves one life, hell, ban everything! Jeez, we actually can hunt on Sunday in SK now. What is this Canada coming to? :runaway:
 
I started a similar thread over on CAF and was asked if I was sure of the no air gun law in NS for hunting so I emailed the DNR .


Post subject: Re: Nova Scotia Regs Need Change.Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:46 pm

Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:51 pm
Posts: 35
Location: Nova Scotia Well I finaly got a reply:

Hi Bob,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
With regard to your below question, No air guns are not permitted for hunting small game in Nova Scotia.
If you require further information on the subject, please let me know.

Derick

______________________
Derick W Stoddard
Assistant Director,
Enforcement Division
Dept. of Natural Resources
P. O. Box 698
Halifax, NS
B3J 2T9
Ph (902) 424-8925
E-Mail stoddadw@gov.ns.ca


>>> <bobcam@eastlink.ca> 10/11/09 9:27 pm >>>
chosen-subject:Air Gun Hunting

county:pictou County

Comments: I would like to know if air guns, over or under 500 fps, are permitted for hunting small game in NS, As they are not listed in allowable weapons to hunt small game or do they just fall into the under 22rimfire category? many other Provinces in Canada allow the use of air rifles and some also allow air pistols, Just want to know where N.S stands on the issue?
Thanks Bob Cameron.
 
Not trying to steal your thread Levi but here's a adress for all us Nova Scotian to send a letter to about this subject.
e-mail the Dnr? Come on guys a few miniuts to promote your sport! Here's the adress https://www.gov.ns.ca/natr/contact/

If enough of us bug these guys it may be less work for them to change the regs than keep replying to us.
 
NS Airgun Hunting

Bobc,

Did Enforcement Officer Stoddard identify/quote which law
prevents Nova Scotians from hunting with Air guns. Just curious, as
I always assumed it was legal.

Hotdog
 
Bobc,

Did Enforcement Officer Stoddard identify/quote which law
prevents Nova Scotians from hunting with Air guns. Just curious, as
I always assumed it was legal.

Hotdog

No. I sent him another e-mail asking that but no reply yet.Its been 3 weeks now. You should send him a quick note to see If he will give you a reply.
 
In looking through the regulations and the Wildlife Act nthere is no specific mention of air guns anywhere. It does however limit hunting (as opposed to trap/snare) to bows and firearms. An air gun with a muzzle velocity below 500 fps in not a firearm and is likely NOT permitted. However as air rifles with muzzle velocities above 500 fps such as many of the European stlye varmint guns (1000fps+) are classed by C-68 as firearms, I don't see why they would not be a permitted option for small game. I could find no mention of specific firearm type/calibre's required save that they not be tracer, incendiary or FMJ.

The catch however may be that these printed regs can be supplemented or amended by the Governor in Council at any time.

Best ask for specific section #'s etc.
 
Well I recived a reply from mr stoddard, vauge though. I guess i'll have to send another letter but to mrs towers this time. copy of email below.




Hi Bob,
The Wildlife Act and its regulations are administered by our Wildlife Division in Kentville. If you wish to suggest a change to the regulations, you can make your request to Julie Towers, Director, Wildlife at TOWERSJK@gov.ns.ca

Derick

______________________
Derick W Stoddard
Assistant Director,
Enforcement Division
Dept. of Natural Resources
P. O. Box 698
Halifax, NS
B3J 2T9
Ph (902) 424-8925
E-Mail stoddadw@gov.ns.ca

>>> Bob Cameron <bobcam@eastlink.ca> 11/11/2009 10:43 PM >>>

Hi Derick. I would like a little more info on this subject. Why cant I hunt small game with a pellet gun which is registered as a fire arm because it is said to be powerful enough to be lethal to humans, is it simply because whoever wrote the reg's did not consider it? I feel our Province is falling behind other provinces allow it ditto with Sunday hunting. How do these regs get changed? Is there any one I can contact that can influence these regs? Thanks for your time.
Sincerely Bob Cameron.
----- Original Message -----
From: Derick W Stoddard
To: bobcam@eastlink.ca
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: Internet Comment Form


Hi Bob,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
With regard to your below question, No air guns are not permitted for hunting small game in Nova Scotia.
If you require further information on the subject, please let me know.

Derick

______________________
Derick W Stoddard
Assistant Director,
Enforcement Division
Dept. of Natural Resources
P. O. Box 698
Halifax, NS
B3J 2T9
Ph (902) 424-8925
E-Mail stoddadw@gov.ns.ca


>>> <bobcam@eastlink.ca> 10/11/09 9:27 pm >>>
chosen-subject:Air Gun Hunting

county:pictou County

Comments: I would like to know if air guns, over or under 500 fps, are permitted for hunting small game in NS, As they are not listed in allowable weapons to hunt small game or do they just fall into the under 22rimfire category? many other Provinces in Canada allow the use of air rifles and some also allow air pistols, Just want to know where N.S stands on the issue?
Thanks Bob Cameron.
 
Bobc

As far as I can tell, there is nothing in NS law/regulations
preventing you from hunting small game (such as rabbits) with
an airgun. Nothing has to be changed. If such a restriction existed,
Mr. Stoddard would have quoted it.
 
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