Springfield 67D shotgun question

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With this shotgun un-cocked and the pump fore end all the way forward, the bolt carrier will slide back about 1/4 inch or so with hardly any effort.
If you stand the gun up vertical this is enough to start sliding the bolt carrier down with just gravity.
This makes it hard to load shells because you have to purposely hold the fore end forward to keep shells from sliding back too far with the bolt carrier.
Every spring and lever are in the right place and not bent or broke from what I could see. The bolt release works fine as does the lifter.
What else is going on here ?
 
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Honestly not something someone is going to have any experience with IMO to make a comment off the top of their heads A guess a broken slide or damaged bolt
Not a gun very many still have or use . Been years since I seen one. Have not been made since the late 80's and few kept them
Fix the link and compare what you have to the pic you may see a difference
ht tps://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/67-shotgun-series/67-ser-e
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Its a 67 D model and I can’t see anything bent or broken and all parts are there. Everything works fine so I,m thinking maybe the bolt and carrier are not original to this gun ?
 
MGN308 said:
Its a 67 D model and I can’t see anything bent or broken and all parts are there. Everything works fine so I,m thinking maybe the bolt and carrier are not original to this gun ?
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The odds of that are real slim and even if it was it would make no difference
Post some pics maybe another set of eyes may spot something
Cheers
 
Your losing me with your explanation of the problem . If the gun is in a fired condition ( forearm forward hammer released or un-cocked ) yes its possible the action may want to open by gravity .once you open the action fully cocking the hammer . and place shell in the load eject port by hand or from the mag . and close the action fully there should be no more movement in the bolt . Not seeing where in that process one is required to hold the pump forward .
 
Some of the 67 series guns had a double dovetail piece that connects the pump action arm to the bolt carrier .this is a wear point in the action and can cause cycling issues .
 
rembolt said:
Your losing me with your explanation of the problem . If the gun is in a fired condition ( forearm forward hammer released or un-cocked ) yes its possible the action may want to open by gravity .once you open the action fully cocking the hammer . and place shell in the load eject port by hand or from the mag . and close the action fully there should be no more movement in the bolt . Not seeing where in that process one is required to hold the pump forward .
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I prefer to load the tube magazine first then pump a shell into the chamber. Thats how I first noticed this.
 
I don't load into the magazine of any of my pumps or autos with the action unlocked. I don't think this is how they are to be loaded into the magazine. Your gun sounds normal to me. Have to ask why are you loading the mag with the gun uncocked? The scheme. shows this model has a "beard" on the front of the carrier, that is what keeps and controls the first round from the mag. Your gun is fine.

Darryl
 
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I don't load into the magazine of any of my pumps or autos with the action unlocked. I don't think this is how they are to be loaded into the magazine. Your gun sounds normal to me. Have to ask why are you loading the mag with the gun uncocked? The scheme. shows this model has a "beard" on the front of the carrier, that is what keeps and controls the first round from the mag. Your gun is fine.

Darryl
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Agree 100% on the loading
Cheers
 
MGN308 said:
After talking to a qualified gunsmith, he said this is normal with older savage pump actions as they wear with use.
The design of the bolt carrier with the shell stop on it will do this.
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Where did you find one of those in Nova Scotia?? and I am being serious. If it is who I am thinking I would be shocked if he ever had his hands on one of these old girls
Now if it was old S Adams in Truro I would take his feedback to the bank
Too bad you cannot post some pics of the bolt and slide for the boys to have a look at
Cheers
 
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Where did you find one of those in Nova Scotia?? and I am being serious. If it is who I am thinking I would be shocked if he ever had his hands on one of these old girls
Now if it was old S Adams in Truro I would take his feedback to the bank
Too bad you cannot post some pics of the bolt and slide for the boys to have a look at
Cheers
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The internet is full of qualified subject matter experts, many of them here on CGN it seems. Lol
 
MGN308 said:
The internet is full of qualified subject matter experts, many of them here on CGN it seems. Lol
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If you think like that why did you even come here for help

Enjoy your gun. I am sure if it is worn that bad as your smith says and they all do wear like that ( which they don't ) yours is just fine :)
Perhaps you should visit the NS hunting site. A member is there now looking for a qualified smith in NS perhaps you can share where you found one and don't tell me Brian
You may be shocked how many guys we have here on CGN with gunsmith knowledge/ qualifications and a history of fixing what are now vintage guns
Honestly don't remember any issues especially with old shotguns being posted one of the boys could not help fix
Cheers
 
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