Springfield Armory 1911's and the sum of their parts

Nub8 said:
..... The TRP. Does anyone know if it uses any MIM parts? How does it compare with the DW 1911's? Being made with no cast/MIM parts. Should be not even consider the SA Custom guns? Let lone the TRP.
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You haven’t been paying attention.
 
Welcome to 10 years ago... If not more? Dummies used to knock on Kimber because they are using MIM part but forgot that Springfield use MIM parts for everything except frame, slide and barrel. Heck, their barrel are not even made from a single piece of steel. What about Ruger? The GP-100 frame is 100% MIM.
 
It's funny how one brand could do so well in the US and be hasted across the border.

Kimber still isn't getting good "press" anywhere. Not even in the US. Though, people are still buying them. Making YouTube reviews...saying good things about their TE guns or the Kimbr's they just bought or have owned for x-number of years.

If anything I think SA's TRP line are price a little high when you consider that in the same price range DW guns are better made and don't use any cast/MIM parts (I'm not hung up on that..just mentioning). DW shoot like "custom" guns too. And their Custom Shop guns cost as much as a Wilson, Les Baer, Ed Brown...etc. And there is no list of options to personalize the gun. They're just more "hand fitted/finished" than the TRP's and the other non-Custom Shop lines.
 
About 8 years ago, I bought a Springfield Armory Trophy Match, National Match, as a backup competition gun to my Series '70 Colt that I have been using for 25 years. I was so happy with its performance and accuracy that it has become my main match pistol. I bought another Springfield 1911 in the early '90's that did me well also. As for gluing the plunger tube, about 10-12 years back the plunger tube came off my Series '70. Not being near a gunsmith out came the JB Weld, I needed the gun for a match next day. At least 12 years later, the Colt is still working great.
 
No issues with my SA Loaded. It is an older serial number however.

Para used to hear of the same complaints of MiM parts we used to build out complete units back in the early 90's. Their PR guy would adamently dispell the use of any MiM parts on the 1911 forum, until I got in there and debunked that.

I eventually got banned from there for "slandering a site sponsor" Probably didn't help I sent photos to the admin of myself standing next to the actual machine with a Para logo in the background :stirthepot2:

Best advise is to buy whatever 1911 platform you decide on and then drop the stock eternals and replace them with WC, EB, Dawson or the like. At least you know their tolerances are tighter than MiM parts..
 
Gluing gun parts. Was news to me before I posted this thread. Tuns out SA isn't he only one to have done so on certain models of their 1911's.

Was considering the TRP's but at the asking price comparable to Dan Wesson's..I'd rather go with Dan Wesson (no cast MIM parts...not that I focus on that in my purchases but spending x$...). Does any one know what parts in a TRP are MIM? I don't think there are any cast parts. The slid//frames are forged. Asking out of curiosity. For around $1700 rather go with a DW Specialist.
 
The first firearm I ever bought was a used Springfield Armory Stainless Loaded.
Someone fired a box of lead bullets through it and the barrel was thoroughly leaded.
I bought a Lewis Lead remover and went to work on it.
I removed the ILS by replacing the mainspring housing and its internals with an S&A magwell.
I installed a Wilson Combat trigger and extended mag release.
I have owned that gun for nearly 10 years and it has never let me down
I used it to do my Black Badge course many years ago.
 
brit84 said:
I've worked on two for action/trigger jobs and the fit and finish was worse than the seraphim I was working on at the same time. Also worse than my STIs but not to surprising there.

The SA had horrible machining/tool marks left everywhere, sharp edges a day generally rough anywhere you wouldn't see when fully assembled
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Par for the course. If it’s American made……Americans will by it. Regardless of quality(I’m looking at you Kimber)
 
Nub8 said:
Gluing gun parts. Was news to me before I posted this thread. Tuns out SA isn't he only one to have done so on certain models of their 1911's.

Was considering the TRP's but at the asking price comparable to Dan Wesson's..I'd rather go with Dan Wesson (no cast MIM parts...not that I focus on that in my purchases but spending x$...). Does any one know what parts in a TRP are MIM? I don't think there are any cast parts. The slid//frames are forged. Asking out of curiosity. For around $1700 rather go with a DW Specialist.
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Just an FYI if you really search you can get good deals. One sleepless night, I was able to purchase a Springfield MC Operator for 450 shipped. It replaced my older SA 1911 A1 Loaded that I modified over the years.

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enefgee said:
The folks who don't like "glued on" parts are going to be awfully upset when they find out that 2/3 rds of their car and truck body parts are "glued on" - panel bonding adhesive is stronger than the metal it bonds. If you want a 1911 with no MIM parts, you don't have much choice - I mean you can get a Springfield Pro, a Les Baer, Ed Brown, or if you don't have $4K burning a hole in your pocket a Norinco.
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funny you mention panel bonding adhesives. I am going to be restoring my truck soon and when i was looking at patch panels I am noticing more and more that the weld in patches are becoming a thing of the past.
That said..... It really surprises me that a company in the game as long as springfield has been , would cheap out and simply use a bonding agent for the plunger tube. The ejector I really can't see a big deal with using a bonding agent as long as the part's fitment is good to begin with.
 
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