Guys it's been a few years since I owned a M14 and I forgot which brand of scope mounts to look for. I know there are some cheap stuff out there which my buddy doesn't want. He's got a nice Springfield M14 and wants a solid scope mount for it. can you point me in the right direction.
Springfield M14 mount
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I am just putting some finishing touches on a Gen 2 version of my M14/M1A CASM scope mount. It is quite a bit different than Brookfield insprired designs. It allows for more than 30MOA of adjustment, it uses large fasteners with each one being locked with set screw. There is an extra set of screws and blue loctite included and it is in use by law enforement and military users in the US and Canada. The Gen2 mount includes a peep sight which will be compatible with an adjustable front sight base at the muzzle.
Sounds good. Try to keep the design as low as functional. I saw pic's of a member's scope mount on here, and I believe it to be one of your designs, and it looked a fair bit higher than my Smith Enterprises. I know you have more objects to bridge when you use the rear sight mounts as a stabilizing point, but excess height isn't that desirable.
Sorry to pick on someone's install, but here is the picture:
The CASM is 1" up from the bottom of the sight base to the top of the rail. The peep sight is about 1/4" low. I just put it on the back end of my Blackfeather rifle stock prototype yesterday and the height/ergonommics are great for my cheek weld. I had a few other people try it as well. I'll post some photos of that soon.
Here is a photo:
M14 Blackfeather "RS" with high butt stock adapter, removable and "placeable" side rail picatinny rail and CASM Gen 2 scope mount with useable peep sight.
Here is a photo:
M14 Blackfeather "RS" with high butt stock adapter, removable and "placeable" side rail picatinny rail and CASM Gen 2 scope mount with useable peep sight.
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Here's a Smith Enterprises M21 scope mount on my Norinco. 3-9x40mm scope. Can't remember which height of rings. Probably mediums.
The see through scope mount allows use of irons at up to 250 yards. After that, the front sight gets obscured by the cross bolts in the Burris rings.
The see through scope mount allows use of irons at up to 250 yards. After that, the front sight gets obscured by the cross bolts in the Burris rings.
The CASM is 1" up from the bottom of the sight base to the top of the rail. The peep sight is about 1/4" low. I just put it on the back end of my Blackfeather rifle stock prototype yesterday and the height/ergonommics are great for my cheek weld. I had a few other people try it as well. I'll post some photos of that soon.
Here is a photo:
M14 Blackfeather "RS" with high butt stock adapter, removable and "placeable" side rail picatinny rail and CASM Gen 2 scope mount with useable peep sight.
So does the CASM mount require an adjustable front sight? Or is it possible to adjust the peep hole/mount with the adjustment knobs? (forgive any ignorance to the M14 design, I dont have it quite memorized yet
)Our CASM series scope mounts will have an adjustable front sight option but to use the mount for scopes/dots, you do not need one. The following excerpt is taken from our web site. Feel free to call me with any questions at 250 721 3444.
While the built-in non-adjustable rear BUIS included with the CASM mount may not be as convenient or as fine in adjustment as the M14 rear sight it replaces, for use as a true BUIS system, intended primarily for back up or emergency use, with instant access to iron sights with the optic mounted, with iron sights that are zeroed for practical use at practical distances, the BUIS system works.
Or is it possible to adjust the peep hole/mount with the adjustment knobs? (forgive any ignorance to the M14 design, I dont have it quite memorized yet
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Here is a recent photo of the CASM Gen II mount. Simple installation, absolutely no gunsmithing required. I can go over the installation over the telephone should you prefer a one on one. Cheers, Frank (tel. 250 721 3444)
Hey VE2: If you want to ship it back, I will bead blast it and re-anodize it for you in black. I can add it in with my next batch of mounts going to anodizing in 2 weeks but the turn around could be slow but at least there's no cost but the shipping. By the way, I think the original "color" has a certain charm on the right stock. See below. That is a Type III hard coat. (No color can be added to a true Type III hard coat from my understanding. A Type III hard coat is above and beyond military specification according to our anodizer).
Here is a recent photo of the CASM Gen II mount. Simple installation, absolutely no gunsmithing required. I can go over the installation over the telephone should you prefer a one on one. Cheers, Frank (tel. 250 721 3444)
Me like, think ill be ordering one of those soon. How hard is it to remove the rear sights, can be done with basic hand tools?
Yes, quite simple. This is from our installation instructions.
Tools Required A thick [ but not too wide ] flat blade screw driver.
1. Turn the elevation knob on the left side of the rear sight clockwise to raise the aperture all the way up.
2. On the right side of the rear sight, loosen the split screw in the center of the windage knob by turning
counter clockwise. The small windage knob split screw will loosen, but it will stay connected to the body
of the windage knob.
3. Unscrew the windage knob from the internal threads holding it to the elevation knob through screw.
4. Remove the elevation knob through-screw.
5. Push up and forward FIRMLY on the aperture to free the aperture spring cover from the slot in the rear
of the rear sight pocket, and remove the remaining rear sight components
6. Clean the rear sight pocket of any dirt or hardened grease. Automotive brake cleaner and a tooth brush
work well for cleaning the rear sight pocket.
Steel is where it's at
The promag mount from mystic is best bang for the buck hands down. Super low for optimum mounting AND you keep your irons so if your optic craps out.... You stll have the ability to place accurate shots. Mine was under 120.00 landed
The promag mount from mystic is best bang for the buck hands down. Super low for optimum mounting AND you keep your irons so if your optic craps out.... You stll have the ability to place accurate shots. Mine was under 120.00 landed
Promag mount
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Hi Doc, do you sell? Tried the web page for info, no go.Steel is where it's at
The promag mount from mystic is best bang for the buck hands down. Super low for optimum mounting AND you keep your irons so if your optic craps out.... You stll have the ability to place accurate shots. Mine was under 120.00 landed
Thanks
Steel is where it's at
I agree that the ARMS18 scope mount is a great scope mount, but the CASM is a new, advanced design that offers long distant shooters adjustability & solves common installation problems found with "Brookfield" inspired designs.
A few points to consider:
1. The CASM requires "0" gunsmithing: it is a true "drop in" optics mounting solution. One cannot be sure that ARMS18 clones will or will not require fitting to your receiver for example, which "possibly" means taking material off the mount to make it fit. There is a documented history of this problem.
2. The CASM is the only M14 scope mount that is "adjustable" affording you "0" or up to an additional 30MOA (or more) of rake should you want it for long distant shooting. You cannot adjust Brookfield inspired designs in this fashion and no other M14 scope mount in the world offers this level of adjustablility. It is a proprietary design to the M14.ca CASM.
3. All CASM series scope mounts are double-locked having the largest fasteners of any M14 scope mount sold in the world. The CASM will never shoot loose. (A properly installed ARMS18 won't shoot loose either but it can/might be more difficult to set up).
4. There are no issues with stovepiping on the CASM series scope mounts so there is no "tweaking" to do whatsoever, i.e., there is no need to swap your rifle's extractor, ejector and springs to USGI to make it work for example on some rifles. There is a documented history of this problem with ARMS18 mounts.
5. The fact is some M14's may never work right with the new style Brookfield inspired designs unless you spend extra money, take the time to do proper modifications to your rifle yourself or pay a gunsmith. Each rifle is different but no matter, every M14/M1A/M305 etc., can seat a CASM mount right out of the box with nothing but simple tools.
6. There is no history of the CASM series scope mounts ever shooting loose. There is no history of the CASM series scope mounts failing, ever and so far, there are no documented problems with the CASM despite having mounts in every CAD province and every US state excluding protectorates.
7. The owner of Sadlak Industries LLC informed me once that given the material differences, Sadlak aluminum mounts will not shoot loose, will hold zero and are "as reliable as their steel models." I would argue the same for our CASM series: material choice suits the advanced design and the mount is, well, rock solid and for $140 it seems to be a good Canadian value considering these points of comparison.
