Hello Gunnutz, one of my friends was given an M1A Springfield from his grandfather about 2-3 years ago.For whatever reason he has brought it into Ellwood Epps for evaluation on its condition and has been there ever since as they willnt allow him to pick it up. Apparently Epps has been in contact with the CFO and has been told it is prohibited unless it is fitted with a new receiver for it to become non restricted ? It is a semiautomatic rifle and has been confirmed as such by Epps. Is there something Iam missing here? The only reason I'm on here asking is because I was asked if I could find a receiver as Ellwood Epps can't find one. Can anyone help me out here. Thanks.
Springfield M1A needs a new receiver?!?
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Perhaps it is actually an M14 with the full automatic selector switch and transfer bar still intact - ie. A non-converted or improperly converted full automatic (prohibited). I would still try to get more info from Epps.
/l\ Yep...what he said. It might be a prohib. Epps could disassemble the rifle, surrender the stripped
receiver, and return all other parts to your buddy who could either save them for a future build or resell.
The parts alone should be worth a few bucks!
receiver, and return all other parts to your buddy who could either save them for a future build or resell.
The parts alone should be worth a few bucks!
Been there done that... I bought when I was 17, a M1A for 700$ ( I paid for it, Dad put it under his name, till I had my license ) Long story short, They falsely registered/verified it as a M1A when they started to prohib everything and I was in possessions of a prohib rifle. Nothing I could do but get a smith to remove the barrel and parts off, send me the parts and have the gun destroyed.
transfer bar and selector doesn't make a difference- it's what's marked on the heel that matters- moreover, is the fact that there's 2 separate SPRINGFIELD armories- the government one which existed until 68 and the one that treads on the government armory reputation- just to add to the confusion, I believe there were left over receivers( unstamped) at the end of the run which good old elmer ballance completed as m14s but marked as m1as to get around the machine gun batf thing sounds to me like your friend is SCREWED out of an m1a- the only thing we can do is lobby parliament to get this rectified
If it is, if fact, a M-14, and not an actual M1a, it is a prohibited firearm. And if it isn't already registered as a 12-2 or 12-3, there is no way to bring it into the system.
As has been suggested, if it is a M-14, have Epps dismantle it, keeping all parts except for the receiver.
Buy a Norinco, dismantle it, and install all the parts on the Chinese receiver. The Chinese parts do have some value, and can be sold to offset the cost.
Don't know why Epps would have contacted the CFO for a ruling. There are folks at Epps who could distinguish between a M-14 and a commercial rifle.
There is no reason why a commercial M1a would be prohibited.
As has been suggested, if it is a M-14, have Epps dismantle it, keeping all parts except for the receiver.
Buy a Norinco, dismantle it, and install all the parts on the Chinese receiver. The Chinese parts do have some value, and can be sold to offset the cost.
Don't know why Epps would have contacted the CFO for a ruling. There are folks at Epps who could distinguish between a M-14 and a commercial rifle.
There is no reason why a commercial M1a would be prohibited.
Mine the guy went to the effort to turn the 4 into a A.. But couldnt hide the US ARMY, or the lug in the rear and where the op rod goes. Even if you had the rear lug milled off, op rod would still give it away and the serial number.
I would imagine that Epps is covering their butt. They are now in possession of an unregistered prohibited firearm. If they give it back they may be breaking one of many laws. The check was likely to see if it was registered and be allowed back into the real world. Chances are the op's friend would not have the proper 12.X class to possess the rifle and is now in firearm limbo.(or hell)
Very early SA Inc. M1A's were built on surplused M-14 receivers and used surplus parts. Under the copied from the ATF policy of 'Once an MG, Always an MG." it's evil just like any other semi-auto'd M-14. Assuming, of course, that's what it is.
Springfield Armory, the U.S. government arsenal, made M-14's from 1959–1964. Might be one of those too.
Not stamped 'U.S. Army'. They were stamped 'U.S. Rifle' though. A U.S. Marine who was issued a rifle that had U.S. Army stamped on it would have an excrement fit. snicker.
Springfield Armory, the U.S. government arsenal, made M-14's from 1959–1964. Might be one of those too.
Not stamped 'U.S. Army'. They were stamped 'U.S. Rifle' though. A U.S. Marine who was issued a rifle that had U.S. Army stamped on it would have an excrement fit. snicker.
