Springfield Trap door...Pics Up!!

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I just picked up a Springfield Trap Door Cavalry carbine.

1873 Model, Right?

So why does it say Model 1885 on the breach block?

What else should I know about this thing?

Its my very first 'antique'....Fugg Im gettn old....will get some pics up soon-ish
 
Re: Springfield Trap door

Klunk said:
K,

I just picked up a Springfield Trap Door Cavalry carbine.

1873 Model, Right?

So why does it say Model 1885 on the breach block?

What else should I know about this thing?

Its my very first 'antique'....Fugg Im gettn old....will get some pics up soon-ish
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The 1873 went through a number of mods over it's lifetime.

Research your trapdoor here:
http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/
 
1885? Is it MODEL 1884? There was a Model 1873. 1877 and 1884 differing principally in the rearsight.
 
The year on the reciever is the year of production. There are differences in the early trapdoors and the later ones. The earliest ones have a solid bottom to the breach block while the later ones have a hollow milled out. The earliest ones also have the ejector/extractor as a small little tab on the top center while the later ones have a slightly large one the left side.
Finally be sure that the short barrel shows not signs of trimming; many of the rifles have been chopped to create carbines.

cheers mooncoon
 
Ooops...my mistake

The breach block is dated 1884

The rear sight is very similiar to a 1903 Springfield rear sight....fully adjustable in all directions
 
A real one or a copy? Either way, the load is 55 grains of BP not 70. Trust me. 70 grains out of a carbine hurts to shoot.
I forget what year it was changed, but the original Trapdoor was a conversion from a muzzle loader to breech loading. A net search turns up all kinds of Trapdoor sites.
 
sunray said:
A real one or a copy? Either way, the load is 55 grains of BP not 70. Trust me. 70 grains out of a carbine hurts to shoot.
I forget what year it was changed, but the original Trapdoor was a conversion from a muzzle loader to breech loading. A net search turns up all kinds of Trapdoor sites.
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That's the Allin conversion. I've seen an original here in Canada.
 
Claven2 said:
We need pics!!!
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But of course....

trapdoor.jpg


PA140034.jpg


PA140037.jpg
 
Does your carbine have the sling bar on the left side?. The fore end tip looks too short to me. Converted rifle stock?
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No sling bar....I have compared pics and the forend seems about right


Any visible stock cartouches? Got a closeup shot of the muzzle?
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Not a damn mark on the wood...nothing...not even a hint. I can take a pic of the muzzle...it looks factory. Whats the correct barrel length for one of these?



Serial num will look up in book, can block last two digits if you like.
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Ummm....where is the serial number supposed to be on one of these???
 
Sorry, but that is not an original carbine. 19th Century Bubba took a file and saw to a musket (proportions are all wrong).
 
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