Spuhr vs. Nightforce X-treme Duty Ultralite One-Piece Magmount

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Hi there,

I am looking to hear from anyone as to their preference of scope mount for a dual purpose hunting/long range precision rig, likely to employ a Nightforce ATACR 5-25x56mm F1 scope. Does anyone have real world experience with either mounting system that can chime in on their preference, pros/cons, etc. and why they would choose one over the other?


Thanks in advance,




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Had a SPUHR sold it and got ATRS rings instead. :)

If you can afford it they are extremely nice mounts, But for paper punchers they just empty your wallet.
 
Richard makes great stuff. Here's his Milspec 1.5 mount on my Coyote...

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Have 2 sphur mounts. The feature that I really appreciate with the sphur is that it includes a leveling insert that ensures the scope is mounted completely level to your mounting rail, which is nice if you are a do it your self kind of guy. Also it includes an integrated level, and attachment points for other attachments like a cosigne indicator or reflex sights, or NV gear.

One other benifit of a single piece mount would be the ability to move an optic from rifle to rifle (assuming all have 1913 rails).
 
uncle ben said:
Have 2 sphur mounts. The feature that I really appreciate with the sphur is that it includes a leveling insert that ensures the scope is mounted completely level to your mounting rail, which is nice if you are a do it your self kind of guy. Also it includes an integrated level, and attachment points for other attachments like a cosigne indicator or reflex sights, or NV gear.

One other benifit of a single piece mount would be the ability to move an optic from rifle to rifle (assuming all have 1913 rails).
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You just listed all the reasons I DISLIKE the spuhr mounts and another will never touch any of my rifles. The 'leveling insert' is a gimmick triangular wedge that "levels" your scope, except that it doesn't work nearly as well as a small machinist level and a set of soft jaws in the vice. Don't rely on some gimmick to do the leveling, it's never quite right. If 'close enough' is what you're looking for you may as well settle for Tapco or Tasco or whatever they're called. The design being angled where you torque it down, makes it a thousand times more onerous and frustrating to level the scope out properly because as you torque, it's spinning the scope.

If torqued properly, a one piece mount is no better for removing and reinstalling than two precision machined rings. Think about it your rings cannot shift at all if they are torqued down properly, otherwise they would be all over the place when you tried sighting in. One piece mounts are only advantageous for cantilevers.

The small level as seen in the spuhr mount is a nice feature to have, but the spuhr has it in a horrendous location because you cannot see it without shifting your face when you're in a firing position. The level is obscured by your scopes eye piece. The better option in my opinion, and as I dislike Spuhr I expect I'll get flamed for having an opinion, is a good set of rings, be it Nightforce, ATRS, TPS (if you don't mind the weight), etc. And a vortex low profile bubble level.
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The last 3 or 4 scopes I have mounted have all employed the use of my iPhone level to ensure things are true!!! Works like a dream (and yes, the first time I did triple check/verify using a plumb line and machinists level as well). Going forward, my technique will remain the same...it works, so why mess with a good, simple thing?!!!?
 
Kranatos said:
You just listed all the reasons I DISLIKE the spuhr mounts and another will never touch any of my rifles. The 'leveling insert' is a gimmick triangular wedge that "levels" your scope, except that it doesn't work nearly as well as a small machinist level and a set of soft jaws in the vice. Don't rely on some gimmick to do the leveling, it's never quite right. If 'close enough' is what you're looking for you may as well settle for Tapco or Tasco or whatever they're called. The design being angled where you torque it down, makes it a thousand times more onerous and frustrating to level the scope out properly because as you torque, it's spinning the scope.

If torqued properly, a one piece mount is no better for removing and reinstalling than two precision machined rings. Think about it your rings cannot shift at all if they are torqued down properly, otherwise they would be all over the place when you tried sighting in. One piece mounts are only advantageous for cantilevers.

The small level as seen in the spuhr mount is a nice feature to have, but the spuhr has it in a horrendous location because you cannot see it without shifting your face when you're in a firing position. The level is obscured by your scopes eye piece. The better option in my opinion, and as I dislike Spuhr I expect I'll get flamed for having an opinion, is a good set of rings, be it Nightforce, ATRS, TPS (if you don't mind the weight), etc. And a vortex low profile bubble level.
lbl-30_vortex_slim_bubble-level_700_1.jpg
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I agree, the level that is integrated on the sphur is not in an ideal location. It's well protected, less likely to snag on anything, but you are 100% correct, the level isn't easily seen while having a good cheekweld.

As far as leveling the scope, I trusted the leveling insert and it seems to have done its job. There was no scope twisting when tightening the rings the two times I've used them, but that may be a problem other people have had. I personally don't own a machinist level, or other scope leveling tools, so for me the leveling insert was very convenient.
 
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