SR 15/16 Review By Garand Thumb

Bolts are something like 35-40% stronger as I recall from standard spec. - why wouldn’t you want one.

Because KAC charges an arm and a leg for their proprietary bolt when milspec bolts are way cheaper, way easier to find (think SHTF) and they're compatible across the board. Besides, when was the last time your AR bolt broke?
 
Ambi controls? : for those shooters who are not right-handed or slice the pie around obstacles with the rifle in the left shoulder.
Those are the two most important points as to why.

Why have ambi controls incorporated into the design? : so you don’t have a bunch of added on stuff that can snag on flora, equipment, etc.

Why increase the bolt strength? : because bolt failure does happen. It is a known weak point in the AR design, and it can happen at the most inopportune time. If one can eliminate this weak point, it’s value is indispensable.

Intermediate gas: a more reliable gas impulse that negates the requirement to overgas the gun, which happens to smooth out the impulse and reduce felt recoil. Why hasn’t KAC been copied? My guess is patent protection.

Tired argument? : I’m referring to the fact that there has been incremental change in the AR over its history. Some of it was decent, even if not seen on the first pass, and some of it was a clear case of two steps forward, three steps back, but in the long run we are better for it, and the platform has progressed.
I was there when the FN was ditched for the C7. I remember all of the #####ing and moaning about how our battle rifle was being replaced with a poodle shooter and a sproing gun (in reference to the main spring in the butt and how the shooter would hear the very tell tale noise from the spring upon firing). Scores went up surely, but these things couldn’t possibly be effective on a battlefield.
Next up was when we turned them in for the C7A1 and the ‘elcrap’. I blew a few qualification shoots with that ‘trusty’ bit of glass, and no one #####ed louder than I when that happened.
I can produce hits on target just as well with iron sights as I can with an optic. My scores went up with that optic marginally - bu5 only when it worked. You were a lucky and rare fellow to have escaped a failed Elian in those days.
But incrementally, they were improved and it turned into a bit of a dance : two steps forward, three steps back, and now four steps forward.

KAC is at the forefront of that change. Those incremental variations on the theme is what drives invention and betterment of the platform as a whole.
 
Ambi controls? : for those shooters who are not right-handed or slice the pie around obstacles with the rifle in the left shoulder.
Those are the two most important points as to why.

Why have ambi controls incorporated into the design? : so you don’t have a bunch of added on stuff that can snag on flora, equipment, etc.

Why increase the bolt strength? : because bolt failure does happen. It is a known weak point in the AR design, and it can happen at the most inopportune time. If one can eliminate this weak point, it’s value is indispensable.

Intermediate gas: a more reliable gas impulse that negates the requirement to overgas the gun, which happens to smooth out the impulse and reduce felt recoil. Why hasn’t KAC been copied? My guess is patent protection.

Tired argument? : I’m referring to the fact that there has been incremental change in the AR over its history. Some of it was decent, even if not seen on the first pass, and some of it was a clear case of two steps forward, three steps back, but in the long run we are better for it, and the platform has progressed.
I was there when the FN was ditched for the C7. I remember all of the #####ing and moaning about how our battle rifle was being replaced with a poodle shooter and a sproing gun (in reference to the main spring in the butt and how the shooter would hear the very tell tale noise from the spring upon firing). Scores went up surely, but these things couldn’t possibly be effective on a battlefield.
Next up was when we turned them in for the C7A1 and the ‘elcrap’. I blew a few qualification shoots with that ‘trusty’ bit of glass, and no one #####ed louder than I when that happened.
I can produce hits on target just as well with iron sights as I can with an optic. My scores went up with that optic marginally - bu5 only when it worked. You were a lucky and rare fellow to have escaped a failed Elian in those days.
But incrementally, they were improved and it turned into a bit of a dance : two steps forward, three steps back, and now four steps forward.

KAC is at the forefront of that change. Those incremental variations on the theme is what drives invention and betterment of the platform as a whole.

Still doesn't explain the bolt catch. For charging handle the bcm gunfighter or the geissele handles are superior. The mag release. Norgon, troy, if you hunt it, Hk, and kacs own ambi mag release can be installed on a regular ar and function great.

So to my understanding intermediate is somewhere between carbine and midlength. And fair play to that.

The two questions i do have though... can the sr15/16 bolt be used on a milspec gun?
And how much stronger is a kac bolt over a lmt enhanced bcg?

And yss I too hate the c79
 
If you can't see the merits in having built-in ambi controls on a rifle of this type and purpose on your own, no amount of posts on a forum is likely to provide sufficient persuasion.

Pistol < carbine < mid-length < intermediate < rifle

The E3 bolt will not fit a milspec barrel extension. The E3 barrel extension will accept a milspec bolt but it will cause premature wear to the extension and isn't a permanent solution nor a recommended one.

The LMT bolt is up there with KAC's E3. If you don't care for proprietary parts, LMT is the ticket.
 
Video sucks but

Thanks for this thread. Maybe I'll sell my CC and get another SR-15.

Could use a complete rifle with a 18" stainless barrel M-LOK. (wake up CSC)
 
Ambi controls? : for those shooters who are not right-handed or slice the pie around obstacles with the rifle in the left shoulder.
Those are the two most important points as to why.
The AR with standard controls has been used to slice the pie from both sides for well, over a half a century. Lefties have been using right handed gear since there was a distinction between the two. The only controls that need to be ambi are the safety(very nice to have) and the mag release.
The bolt catch is not necessary as using the charge handle works every time unlike the bolt catch. Regardless the bolt catch works for right and left handed users as is.

Why have ambi controls incorporated into the design? : so you don’t have a bunch of added on stuff that can snag on flora, equipment, etc.
I don't add anything to my rifles, they are stock with the exception of a BCM charge handle but that's nothing new as all AR's have a charge handle.
Why increase the bolt strength? : because bolt failure does happen. It is a known weak point in the AR design, and it can happen at the most inopportune time. If one can eliminate this weak point, it’s value is indispensable.
No doubt bolts break but replacing them regularly or at suggested intervals goes a long way. I personally have spare bolts, firing pins,
cam pins and cotter pins in the grips of all my AR's for such events.

Intermediate gas: a more reliable gas impulse that negates the requirement to overgas the gun, which happens to smooth out the impulse and reduce felt recoil. Why hasn’t KAC been copied? My guess is patent protection.
I'm onboard with the intermediate system but it never caught on which makes it proprietary and not on the desired list.
Tired argument? : I’m referring to the fact that there has been incremental change in the AR over its history. Some of it was decent, even if not seen on the first pass, and some of it was a clear case of two steps forward, three steps back, but in the long run we are better for it, and the platform has progressed.
I was there when the FN was ditched for the C7. I remember all of the #####ing and moaning about how our battle rifle was being replaced with a poodle shooter and a sproing gun (in reference to the main spring in the butt and how the shooter would hear the very tell tale noise from the spring upon firing). Scores went up surely, but these things couldn’t possibly be effective on a battlefield.
Next up was when we turned them in for the C7A1 and the ‘elcrap’. I blew a few qualification shoots with that ‘trusty’ bit of glass, and no one #####ed louder than I when that happened.
I can produce hits on target just as well with iron sights as I can with an optic. My scores went up with that optic marginally - bu5 only when it worked. You were a lucky and rare fellow to have escaped a failed Elian in those days.
But incrementally, they were improved and it turned into a bit of a dance : two steps forward, three steps back, and now four steps forward.

KAC is at the forefront of that change. Those incremental variations on the theme is what drives invention and betterment of the platform as a whole.
The incremental changes are excellent(for the most part) and to be expected with any design and any product. The Ambi lowers of KAC are not revolutionary nor do they improve performance or reliability of the rifle. I know a fair number of MIL and LE types and not one that I've talked to has ever said that an ambi bolt catch or mag release has or would likely ever make a difference in a gunfight. The natural lulls in the fight afford plenty of time to reload and use the standard controls.
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If you can't see the merits in having built-in ambi controls on a rifle of this type and purpose on your own, no amount of posts on a forum is likely to provide sufficient persuasion.

Pistol < carbine < mid-length < intermediate < rifle

The E3 bolt will not fit a milspec barrel extension. The E3 barrel extension will accept a milspec bolt but it will cause premature wear to the extension and isn't a permanent solution nor a recommended one.

The LMT bolt is up there with KAC's E3. If you don't care for proprietary parts, LMT is the ticket.

The merit for ambi controls is minimal at best. The safety being the most beneficial, the mag release is nice but not needed and the bolt catch is absolutely unnecessary.
 
If you can't see the merits in having built-in ambi controls on a rifle of this type and purpose on your own, no amount of posts on a forum is likely to provide sufficient persuasion.

Pistol < carbine < mid-length < intermediate < rifle

The E3 bolt will not fit a milspec barrel extension. The E3 barrel extension will accept a milspec bolt but it will cause premature wear to the extension and isn't a permanent solution nor a recommended one.

The LMT bolt is up there with KAC's E3. If you don't care for proprietary parts, LMT is the ticket.

Stop blanketing all ambi controls. I asked about the bolt catch itself. Mag release has been rehashed and safety has been rehashed they are widely available in ambi hell you can even install the kac ones on your non kac gun.

Thank you for the clarification on the gas system and which bolt works with which system.

And with the lmt enhanced that kinda nullifies the arguement of superior bolt then...

Leaving it with... the intermediate gas system as being the only benefit i can think of that a conventional ar can't have.

Bringing me back to my original point of kac is overpriced UNLESS that gun is set up exactly as you would have it from the get go.

But frankly I don't see what it can do that a 2 grand dd with a lmt bcg can't.

And despite the comparable cost I have yet to see it go toe to toe with the Hk416.

I want to eliminate any potential misunderstanding right now. I think they are fine rifles. But I can't justify their cost with what else is available now.
 
Stop blanketing all ambi controls. I asked about the bolt catch itself. Mag release has been rehashed and safety has been rehashed they are widely available in ambi hell you can even install the kac ones on your non kac gun.

Thank you for the clarification on the gas system and which bolt works with which system.

And with the lmt enhanced that kinda nullifies the arguement of superior bolt then...

Leaving it with... the intermediate gas system as being the only benefit i can think of that a conventional ar can't have.

Bringing me back to my original point of kac is overpriced UNLESS that gun is set up exactly as you would have it from the get go.

But frankly I don't see what it can do that a 2 grand dd with a lmt bcg can't.

And despite the comparable cost I have yet to see it go toe to toe with the Hk416.

I want to eliminate any potential misunderstanding right now. I think they are fine rifles. But I can't justify their cost with what else is available now.

You can have an intermediate gas system in a standard AR by just putting in a Noveske barrel, voila done
 
Well, I’m a lefty and have both SR-15 and SR-25 in addition to standard ARs.
I have learned to adapt and make due with standard controls on a lot of handheld weapon platforms and can say for sure that ambi controls are appreciated, the integrated ones being even more so.
The bolt release as designed is perfectly placed for a lefty, presumably putting one on the right side of the rifle is for you righties to operate with your shooting hand. If you find no value in it then that is your prerogative.
 
Well, I’m a lefty and have both SR-15 and SR-25 in addition to standard ARs.
I have learned to adapt and make due with standard controls on a lot of handheld weapon platforms and can say for sure that ambi controls are appreciated, the integrated ones being even more so.
The bolt release as designed is perfectly placed for a lefty, presumably putting one on the right side of the rifle is for you righties to operate with your shooting hand. If you find no value in it then that is your prerogative.

I have the same experience. I'm left eye dominant but i think i'm at birth right handed, and learned to be ambi.
 
Well, I’m a lefty and have both SR-15 and SR-25 in addition to standard ARs.
I have learned to adapt and make due with standard controls on a lot of handheld weapon platforms and can say for sure that ambi controls are appreciated, the integrated ones being even more so.
The bolt release as designed is perfectly placed for a lefty, presumably putting one on the right side of the rifle is for you righties to operate with your shooting hand. If you find no value in it then that is your prerogative.

I suppose if you use it as a release. For me the only use for the bolt catch is unload and show clear and bolt partially forward malfunction to lock the bcg back.

That's a hell of a lot to pay for a relatively minor user convenience. Assuming you follow that manual of arms.
 
I suppose if you use it as a release. For me the only use for the bolt catch is unload and show clear and bolt partially forward malfunction to lock the bcg back.

That's a hell of a lot to pay for a relatively minor user convenience. Assuming you follow that manual of arms.

Sadly, it is only a bolt release on the SR-15. LWRC (and others) took it to the next level with their ambi lower; you can perform every action without your shooting hand ever releasing the pistol grip. Complete LWRC lowers can be had at the 600 USD mark.
 
Depends if it was a NEA bolt or not.

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Sadly, it is only a bolt release on the SR-15. LWRC (and others) took it to the next level with their ambi lower; you can perform every action without your shooting hand ever releasing the pistol grip. Complete LWRC lowers can be had at the 600 USD mark.

Exactly.

As I've said previously, my LMT has both catch and drop. Complete lower ran me roughly $1300 after tax.
 
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