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Hello folks, I'm considering competing in service rifle, but had some questions I'd like answers to before hand.

I see in the Noob sticky above that you can use virtually any rifle, thats cool, but, I had more questions surrounding the actual kit one requires for the matches. That is, sling types preferred, magazine pouches, chest or drop leg or just use pocket on trousers etc.

I have a good pair of combat boots, OD Fatigues from my stint in the army back in the 80's, boonie hat.. Thats about it. What would you consider the "must have's" and the "nice to have's"

Cheers!
 
Slings - Not used for shooting, used to transport, IIRC no fancy space age slings, either a single point or over the shoulder sling .

Mag pouches - I use a TT 2 piece MAV, really you just need to carry 2-4 mags. Most shooting is done at a fix position so mags get dropped and when shooting prone you pick up off the ground.

Should have a spotting scope, cloths that can get dirtied, a shooting mat if you like (a real man lies in the bird poop :D ), long sleeves are a nice idea for shooting prone (or mat), water and snacks. Hat, sun glasses (safety glasses), ear plugs, rain gear, spare socks & cloth (if all get's wet), some basic tool's if something gets loose or fails. A pen or two.

I use 8 mags, usually 4 is enough for a stage, but it's anoying to have to reload in a hurry, so I have 4 others ready to go. 30 round sized mags are good for using as a mono-pod in the prone.

Most important, bring a fun attitude and a smile :)
 
Must Have

- Mags: in proper working condition
- Hydration: canteen, bladder of your choice
- Pen/Pencil: and something to hold it
- Ear Protection: pluges/muffs... budget dependent
- Eye Protection: Oakley/WileyX...
- Head Gear: bonnie/ball cap...
- Rain Gear: we shoot rain or shine

Nice to Have

- A simple and good vest/chest-rig: something that won't fall apart on you but KISS, there is not a lot of mag changes. Get something that you can go prone in comfort.
- Backpack/Buttpack: keeping ammo, warm clothing...
- Spotting Scope: so you can see where you hit
- Knee Pads
- Cleaning Kit
- Shooting Gloves
 
Further to what Furet and Sparhawk have posted,, these are my particular thoughts,,

1. The sling. Most shooters do not use one,, which is just fine if you are shooting an AR15 type of rifle where you can shoot prone with the mag on the ground (30 rounders). You could certainly use a sling to support your position but in the prone, it won't be much better than shooting off the mag,, and is an added complication to deal with when you have to go prone from the standing alert position for the rapids and snaps. Last year I used the sling to support my hold in the standing position. So,, it's your choice, but if you don't have a free floating barrel and you use a sling for support, you will have to find a solution to a wandering zero (particularly at the 300 and 500).

2. Knee pads. Not a fan of them, and I find that they get in the way of my kneeling position and am less stable. I don't use them.

3. Spotting scope. You don't need to go over board on this,, but you will need an optical aid to read the target scoring on the deliberates. You will be tasked with marking other shooters,, and it is not the time to run around and borrow something or to haul your rifle on the line to use your rifle scope to see with. Even a low power set of bino's will do the job. You can eyeball the scoring at 200,, but will be tough at 300 and at 500 you would be guessing for the most part. I have used 7x50 binos in the past,, but now use a 20x60mm Busnell spotting scope on a low tripod for scoring duties and for spotting my own shots.

4. Webbing, mag pouches and vests. I wear the full army smash,, because that's what they gave me and it works. When I turn it in,, I think I may just end up using a belt with one mag pouch. That is all you really need (and that is what many of the civi shooters use),, the rest of your stuff is stuffed in a small ruck or pack sack. You can certainly use the various types of Eagle, Blackhawk, etc vests as they will hold everything and more that you need (many civi shooters use these vests).

5. You need something to write with. Pencils are best,, and you need to have several handy. It annoys others when you have to beg to use theirs when it is time for you to score someone.

6. A sense of humour. Bring it,, you will need it at times. Plse spread it around and share.

7. Now for those things you certainly should not bring to the range or firing line.
a. BlackBerry's and cell phones. If you really need one of these on your person,, then it would be best for you to not compete.
b. Walkman's, IPods, MP3 players. Keep them in your car or at home. They distract others,, and there is no real down time on the range when you can tune out. You will be busy either shooting, scoring or doing butt duty,, so focus on doing those three jobs to the best of your ability.
c. Pets. They might be mistaken for gophers,, and then there will be tears all around,, so sad.

Well, those are my quick thoughts on it.

Opps,, my thoughts on shooting gloves. The rules forbid the use of "shooting gloves" in service conditions shooting. "Shooting Gloves" are those big mitts that the target rifle shooters use that resemble oven mitts. Close fitting leather gloves are not forbidden,, so you can use them if you wish. Most don't bother with gloves for grip,, gloves are only worn if the weather dictates that you need them for warmth,, otherwise bare hands are best for handling mag changes and working the safties, etc.
 
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OK, some very good info here.

So essentially, I've got almost everything I need... with the exception of pencils... LOL

I've got:
My old OD combats, boonie hat, boots.
Got some rain gear somewhere.
Got a spotting scope
old rucksack
ear defenders and eyes
couple of mags, (need a few more me thinks)
rifle
sling
drop leg mag pouch
sense of humour, version 2.0 (sense of humour 1.0 was removed after my divorce, but I've since upgraded :D )

So, really what I'm seeing is I simply need to get my butt on the firing point.

Any of you's guys shoot at Borden?? :canadaFlag:
 
Plink:

Welcome to the coolest forum on the CGN site... well really the second one after the Main Battle Rifle forum :)

Have a read here about what is in our rucksacks on the firing line at the Service Conditions matches.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135184

Yes, always bring your sense of humour with you. Now regarding the matches, we seem to have greater turnouts running the Service Rifle matches in Connaught. Have a look at the sticky at the top of this forum, the one that applies to you S. Ontario types. OSA is the Operational Shooting Association and WE ARE Service Rifle (Okay, Precision, Operational Sniper, Counter Sniper, Operational Pistol and Service Pistol, too) :) . Our mandate is to support Operators shooting Operational type matches that will come in handy on the 2 way range. We used to shoot at Mons Range, Base Boredom, but our low turnouts made all of our efforts a joke, so we switched to conducting our matches in the Ottawa area. Great success at that venue. :)

I see that you are living north of the big smoke. The ONE (only one I can think of...) advantage of being stuck in Ontario is the existence of the OSA and other Service Rifle resourceful people like Shelldrake, Quiet, Nissan_Ranger, TimK, KC and LM at 3W.Milcun.com, Sparhawk, GT, furet , and the other usual suspects). You see, my west coast friends like Skullboy know I'm a Hongcouver boy that is homesick for the Wet Coast, but truth be told, the best (Service Rifle and Operational Style) shooting in Kanada is right here in Lieberal Land .... Ontario. No joking. ;)

How else can we be of help ?

Barney
 
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For slings I highly recommend the Vickers sling!! :D

For gear, what you will find - the more matchs you shoot the better idea you have of what would or wouldn't work for you.
 
Ha... Thanks Farmboy... :slap:
I'll be getting that .. tomorrow, right??? :runaway:

Hungry, thanks for that tidbit of info.. I'll have to start nagging you guys in PM's.. LOL

How else can you help?
Tell me how to get started!! LOL Where can I practice?!? The club I belong to now has only a 100 yard range, and allows me no ability to do much other than bench and standing. Not much good when trying to get ready for SR...


Borden is about 30 minutes from my house, so, would be perfect to play at, IF something is actually happening there.

I'll read the sticky on rucksacks and glean what my beer addled brain can grasp....... :onCrack:
 
One thing no one has mentioned yet is..plot cards to record your groups, weather conditions,etc on for future reference.
Navyshooter & Naval Sniper did up an excellent shoot book with those included..I don't have the url for it though. Maybe NS will stop by and post it.

Also..if you are going to shoot iron..get either a carbide lamp or a bic lighter with a few wraps of masking tape on it to blacken your sights with. I have both but find the lighter and masking tape much faster an easier to use.
 
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