SRV2 Siberian Reviews

DBeato said:
When the bison came out I said that bolt handle will break off. Was looking at it again last week and in 10 minutes and 3 video reviews watched all 3 owners sent their rifle in for repair. reason bolt handle snapped off.
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I have a Bison and contacted them, even though I did not have any serious problems, the rifle had a problem which turned out to be the retailer who mishandled it. They send me a new one as preventive measure. I don't see what is wrong with that. I see people with the FX9 encountering all kind of problems and nobody seems to make a big drama out of it.

Same with the Chiappa M1-9. Some had feeding problems in the beginning. I bought one a few years ago very cheap and thought there would be a problem, nothing, worked like a charm. I don't know when the firearm had problems but must have been 1856 and people were still trashing the gun in 2020 when the problem has long been solved.

I buy a lot of stuff on amazon and sometimes wonder what mental problems the reviewers are having.

As mentioned above, there is one high rated reviewer on youtube and he just wouldn't admit that it was his fault that the Bison did not perform - living off the deep end I guess, there more you trash a certain firearm, the more viewers you are getting.

I sometimes travel a lot and read reviews about the hotels I am staying. WTF, did those people stay at the same hotel as me, and it goes both ways I must say.

The louder people scream, the more wrong they are from my experience.
 
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fritzhanzel said:
Specifics please.
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I've never uploaded a video to youtube, but there are plenty of threads relating to the Bison on CGN. Just do a search.

They have issues with breakage, albeit customer service has been nothing but stellar.

So for me, it has been three or four bolt catches that have sheered off and the latest were the scope rail cap screws have all sheered.
For the money, the barrel has been sub-par - and it was replaced under warranty. My biggest disappointment thus far has been the underwhelming accuracy.

I may yet get IBI to do a new barrel, but I think their quote came in around 600-650$ IIRC.
 
^ The bolt catch is very iffy, I agree, so I just leave it in. I haven't done any accuracy testing myself but will do so soon and report back. I also had to tighten the scope rail screws. I did a lot of mounting of scope rails and rings, I think the problem in general and not BCL specific is that many manufacturers are using non standard heads. I haven't had one of the small bolts sheered off since I am always very careful and have the right tools which is very important.
 
fritzhanzel said:
^ The bolt catch is very iffy, I agree, so I just leave it in.
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I broke them running the bolt while shooting. I suspect it is partially the design not being nearly robust enough and maybe brittleness in the heat treating.
Either way it is a poor design and execution.


fritzhanzel said:
I haven't had one of the small bolts sheered off since I am always very careful and have the right tools which is very important.
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I use calibrated Gray and Proto torque wrenches. Factory setting is 22 in/lbs and all four sheered. It has nothing to do with the use of proper tools - the fasteners they used were garbage.
 
Apologies - we diverged there from the Siberian, but still kinda on point with BCL as a whole.

Fritzhanzel is drinking too much koolaid...
 
I understand lots of people are upset with NEA and after with BCL but at least you can warranty your merchandise, imagine them going out of business ... I had lots of guns not performing as they should right out of the box with different brands and good reputation. What I suggest is give them a chance to fix their mistakes.
On my end I think SIBERIAN is a best 180 variant on the market.
 
beltfed said:
Apologies - we diverged there from the Siberian, but still kinda on point with BCL as a whole.

Fritzhanzel is drinking too much koolaid...
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Explain. If somebody is drinking cool aid, it is people like you who are following the popularity/peer pressure. If you follow my posts, I am trying to actually analyze and give my opinion based on what I know.


"Drinking the Kool-Aid" is an expression used to refer to a person who believes in a possibly doomed or dangerous idea because of perceived potential high rewards. The phrase typically carries a negative connotation. It can also be used ironically or humorously to refer to accepting an idea or changing a preference due to popularity, peer pressure, or persuasion. In recent years, it has evolved further to mean extreme dedication to a cause or purpose, so extreme that one would "drink the Kool-Aid" and die for the cause.
 
Why don't we try and get this back to a review thread and not everyone $#!*talking everybody. If you don't like it then move on and let people who actually own them do the reviews . You'd swear by some of the posted comments they want Canadian companies to tuck tail and close shop. Don't hold you're breath for the AR's to leave the safe anytime soon. And even with a PC majority, it'll be the last thing they do. Make the best of what's easily available to us and quit being such crybabies.
 
ZUKA said:
I understand lots of people are upset with NEA and after with BCL...
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Not upset, just shedding light on real issues that some appear to want to dismiss out of hand because it does not align with their personal experience.

fritzhanzel said:
I am trying to actually analyze and give my opinion based on what I know.
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You're dismissive at best and at worst, actually sh!tting on other people's posts and effectively calling them liars for having negative interactions or experience with BCL's product.
You sound like a shill - hence the kool-aid comment.
 
We are not dismissing the problem , I think most of us know, no one is perfect by now.
But please can we review this particular product and help our fellow gun enthusiasts. With respect to all of you.
 
beltfed said:
Not upset, just shedding light on real issues that some appear to want to dismiss out of hand because it does not align with their personal experience.



You're dismissive at best and at worst, actually sh!tting on other people's posts and effectively calling them liars for having negative interactions or experience with BCL's product.
You sound like a shill - hence the kool-aid comment.
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In case you need a mirror, try it. You are the one using foul language all the time due to the lack of reading comprehension.

Where did I ONE TIME not believe what people posted?

Socially awkward is an understatement.

edit: I removed all rail bolts (those are not screws) and the other top bolts last night. I could see where an unexperienced home wrench person may have problems. :stirthepot2:
 
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ZUKA said:
We are not dismissing the problem , I think most of us know, no one is perfect by now.
But please can we review this particular product and help our fellow gun enthusiasts. With respect to all of you.
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There will be reviews as the weather gets warmer.
 
ZUKA said:
We are not dismissing the problem
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Well I think some are. The problem isn't a particular issue (the bolt carrier as the subject of this thread), or even a particular rifle (the Siberian), the problem is the entire workings of Black Creek Labs.
The ONLY saving grace has been recent customer service, and I dare say that is likely down to one person (or maybe a couple - I don't know the inner workings of the company).

ZUKA said:
I think most of us know, no one is perfect by now.
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BCL can't be expected to be held to a standard of perfection - no company should - and no one is stating that.
This is just more of the same shoddy work of the past and it is painfully obvious to anyone that is aware of, or has personal experience with their past work.

What is also obvious to those in the know, there were some that banded 'round and 'circled the wagons' for that last iteration.
It's looking like the same is happening again.

Enjoy your rifles folks, here's wishing you good fortune with them.:cool:
 
So , Im guessing the lack of reviews is that everyone is waiting on their new firing pins? Must be some that got them by now?
I was going to take mine out but , I want to wait for the new pin , just in case .. lol
 
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